Well, I'm certainly learning anyway... Yes, drifting the turbo version of the XRG was marvelous, but I think FWD hate is almost entirely undeserved circlejerk. Also my RL car is FWD. It's mine, it's perfect and every statement to the contrary is wrong.
Yeah i noticed that. Practicing it now.
That makes sense. Cool technique, thanks!
Ok the dropping the brakes from 800 all the way to 620 and dialing back the bias helped a ton with entry stability. Changing the gears manually is at least more predictable. Dropped the time to consistent mid 1:38.
The linked setups seem insane however. Tons of camber and a locked diff on a FWD?! The car spins its tires and won't take a turn unless under power. Unfortunately, not the driving experience I'm after...
Is there something gentler, more suitable for a beginner? I added just a bit of camber on the front, removed it from the back, softened the front and made the rear harder. The car can finally take a corner.
Possibly with some practice I get below 1:37 but the 1:34 in traffic from the clip you linked?! Witchcraft!
Hi, thanks a lot!
The reason I said I'm not looking for setups is that I'm sure the same principles apply to good setups too. It feels premature to start changing stuff and potentially hiding symptoms of poor driving. I also don't really care about lap times, just good driving techniques.
Adjusting the brake pressure is fair enough of course, as the car has no ABS and i can't control it manually on kbd.
Ok watch video, avoid lockups, countersteer quicker, use engine breaking. Got it, will try.
The reason I said I'm not looking for setups is that I'm sure the same principles apply to good setups too. It feels premature to start changing stuff and potentially hiding symptoms of poor driving. I also don't really care about lap times, just good driving techniques.
Adjusting the brake pressure is fair enough of course, as the car has no ABS and i can't control it manually on kbd.
Ok watch video, avoid lockups, countersteer quicker, use engine breaking. Got it, will try.
A beginner's problem with understeer
Hi everyone, this is my genuine plea for helping me understand where I'm going wrong with driving. I'm a complete beginner in LFS.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jjuluDaPqi8tCVG-9KnTyu_6pcMTbimk/view?usp=sharing
The attached replay is on mouse+keyboard but frankly I've tried a controller and run into the same puzzling issue sometimes. Pardon the quality of the driving I know it's bad. I'm running into a horrific understeer issue that I can't intuitively understand and do not know driving techniques to resolve it. I don't experience anything similar in real life driving.
The turn after the long straight on laps 1 and 2 demonstrate it well. Here is my best attempt at understanding it:
Lap 1 - Turn after the long straight:
Brake just after the 100 sign (too late), try to take the turn at 110 kmh (too fast), after lifting off of the brakes with the wheels turned to the right slightly (too early), the front wheels briefly grip and rotate the car.
I understand it until here.
The wheels quickly lose grip. All 4 wheels start sliding. The rotation continues due to the sharp initial turn, so the drift gets worse even though the steering wheel is straight. The result is an absolutely absurd understeer into the gravel.
The same story just before the bridge, and on lap 2. Trust me I know the entire thing looks like a dogs dinner, but one thing at a time.
The question: what is the actual cause and what do I do to fix it? I know I made mistakes but I experience the same problem even on reasonable turns. Unless the front wheels are made of lubed up ice cubes, there must be something I'm missing. I obviously can't trail-brake on keyboard, and it does not seem like it matters how gently I turn in.
I'm not looking for car setup tips, this is a driving/physics ignorance on my part.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jjuluDaPqi8tCVG-9KnTyu_6pcMTbimk/view?usp=sharing
The attached replay is on mouse+keyboard but frankly I've tried a controller and run into the same puzzling issue sometimes. Pardon the quality of the driving I know it's bad. I'm running into a horrific understeer issue that I can't intuitively understand and do not know driving techniques to resolve it. I don't experience anything similar in real life driving.
The turn after the long straight on laps 1 and 2 demonstrate it well. Here is my best attempt at understanding it:
Lap 1 - Turn after the long straight:
Brake just after the 100 sign (too late), try to take the turn at 110 kmh (too fast), after lifting off of the brakes with the wheels turned to the right slightly (too early), the front wheels briefly grip and rotate the car.
I understand it until here.
The wheels quickly lose grip. All 4 wheels start sliding. The rotation continues due to the sharp initial turn, so the drift gets worse even though the steering wheel is straight. The result is an absolutely absurd understeer into the gravel.
The same story just before the bridge, and on lap 2. Trust me I know the entire thing looks like a dogs dinner, but one thing at a time.
The question: what is the actual cause and what do I do to fix it? I know I made mistakes but I experience the same problem even on reasonable turns. Unless the front wheels are made of lubed up ice cubes, there must be something I'm missing. I obviously can't trail-brake on keyboard, and it does not seem like it matters how gently I turn in.
I'm not looking for car setup tips, this is a driving/physics ignorance on my part.
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