+1 for this team

Quote from ymeshulin :

Joined a server with the =36= clan racing GTRs, and I think I won my 2nd or 3rd race against them. Needless to say, I was lapping within 0.2s of the WR within my first 10 laps there. So please, do not disqualify anybody as being lame based purely on seat time with a particular car / track combo.



Depending on the car and setup, as I have actually said in my post. Ever tried making it through T3 on the inside in XRT? Outside line is 10-15kmh faster, which more than makes up for the bigger radius. Plus, greater speed on exit, therefore huge gain on the run into T1.

Of course, with grippier cars, racing on the outside makes no sense.



If you say that online lap count stats are a clear indication of one's actual skills, this is by far the biggest load of limb-wristed twaddle I have heard in the last 5 years.



Trust me, my friend, if you have good solid experience racing ovals in proper oval sims (Papyrus NR2003 can even be a great benchmark), it takes literally 5-7 laps at Kyoto against human opponents to figure out the aero element of the game.



No worries mate, we're just having a friendly debate. :-)



Easy. Stay around the edge of the top 10, observe what everybody is doing, be in a position to attack with 5-10 laps to go, and go. With the current aero model in LFS it makes no sense to race your guts out racing for lead every lap, when it only takes half a straight to get re-passed.

-->Well actually we did race a few races I see now the 16th of september 2015, You won 1 race which you were the only 1 car to finish, but nvm, and no you were not lapping within 0.2s of the WR( that is not easy to do online while running the race line), more like within 0.3-0.4 when you were driving solo no,

-->Yes correct, I meant slick tire cars though and not road cars like the XRT, but no I am not so familiar with the XRT

-->Yes and no, here is why, online laps running in tight formations with cars all around you versus offline solo running, yes there is a world of difference and the importance of having experience + a lot of laps running online with other drivers is massive,

-->Well dont get me wrong, I remember you as a quick learner that 1 day, its just that it does not just take 5-7 laps to learn how to go really fast around KY1 and fast is 1 second quicker than the WR when drafting,

-->Yes a friendly debate

-->No, when the lead pack 2-5 cars are lapping half a sec faster than the rest you wont ever get a chance to attack with 5-10 laps to go as that lead would be far too big,

Also I am a big supporter of outside passes and would never deem such an act illegal, its more exiting and fun especially when you do it to this jatimc guy every race and he cries afterwards,

Quote from R1hard :

You mean this? https://www.lfs.net/forum/post/1795919#post1795919
That's just how you formed it. And what is that anyway? All I see in 1st replay is I got bit laggy connection and other cars trying to crash me out. In the second replay clearly race is restarting. And the picture? just you and your buddies desperatly typing /w 1 for unknown period. And what exactly does it prove? You and your buddys are first to snitch others, meanwhile your "boss" uses nos mod/speedhack.

If some troll is using my nickname in game it definitely means that I'm the person with other account. Besides, last time I saw you online you were also using my nick. And that wasn't the first time.

No you were handed a chance to turn off your hacks( but when ignoring this consistently you were then banned!

(I honestly never had any issues with you at all (until abuse/hack)), I can respect a good fight on the last lap!

But you had some cheat enabled that day(it was not related to some lag)


I did not post any of the above mentioned pictures nor replays that you are refering to, so dont imply that I did,

Quote from ymeshulin :

I guess this will not be a popular response, but I disagree with pretty much everything the author says about passing on an oval.

Sure, forcing a pass, trying silly 8-wide passes is a true sign of a noob (imbecile, crasher, etc.), however I personally believe in passing everywhere where you can complete the pass without forcing fellow drivers into a crash avoidance mode. In other words, if you are confident (IMPORTANT: AND have enough skills) you can pass 3 cars in T3 - go ahead, and do it.

The big problem of LFS is that the drafting effects of all cars are greatly exaggerated, making oval racing a joke. As a result, oval races turn into an excercise of making sure you're 2nd or 3rd coming out of T3 on the last lap. Qualifying makes no sense, strategy has no place in these races, even driving as such is not overly important - just keep your car straight, stay with the pack, cruise for 399 laps and then make your first and only move.

Some comments about the screenshots provided by the author:

01. I see nothing wrong in the "Example of bad driving", apart from driving on an apron. It has to be said, that this type of driving can only be acceptable when everybody around knows what they are doing. My rule is: even if you are racing against an idiot, never teach him lessons - let him get back onto the track, as this will lessen the chance of him wiping out the entire field. However, if everybody has skills, why not do something hardcore on the last lap? Or, is this a gentleman's cruising club?

02. I don't see a problem with what the author calls "Drop pass". Again, only true if you're confident you are racing against experienced drivers. Having raced on LFS servers for around a year, I figure the biggest issue is the noobs' inability to see / hear / know what's happening around them. For instance, if a car disappears from my mirror, I am sure it's now either on my left, or my right. Noobs completely ignore this idea, and continue to drive as if they do solo hotlapping - they turn into the corner like there's no tomorrow. Again, if you are racing against experienced folks who know what's going on, you can do more hard racing.

03. What's so wrong with T3? A great corner, which can create some unorthodox moves. Cars with less grip may want to take the outside, more banked part of the track to scrub less speed, where faster cars with more grip stick to the bottom. It's a double apex corner, and after you have learned how your competitors drive that turn, you can play around that and plan some moves.

That's my take on oval racing in general and this post in particular. Any opinions are warmly welcomed.

To make this very ultra short --> Go drive a few races on the oval against some fast drivers,,, You will quickly find yourself struggling!

And no you will most likely not pass anyone(fast drivers)around the outside of T3 unless we are talking about absolute beginners,,

As your lfsworld stats lists you as having done a total of 83 laps around the KY1 track which this guide refers to,

I can honestly say that you have little understanding(unless you have a 2nd lfs acc. with a lot of laps!) of how that track works and most of your assumptions are based on ignorance as to how it works at KY1 drafting multiple fast cars,

And I dont mean any offense by stating this,,

Last but not least
--> " just keep your car straight, stay with the pack, cruise for 399 laps and then make your first and only move"

Im lost for words here as to how you can even comtemplate crusing around for 399laps and then being in a position on the last lap to make a first and only move for win... Sounds yea realistic

Quote from R1hard :

Yes, It's a gentelman's cruising club. I used to race for victory, ended up being hated by everyone and banned. OP just copy-pasted here somebody else's work as an "oval bible" wich is just a guide for their cruising club how to drive pattern with FZR.

No no you got banned for using hack as you have been on several other servers using the R1hard username + the 3-4 other accounts you have, all banned np!

I get this message when trying to purchase S3 with my VISA card -->The Card Type selected does not match card number..

Huh I never ever got this message anywhere.

I select VISA and put in my credentials like I would any other website when paying for something.

Does someone know what this problem is?

Quote from Ball Bearing Turbo :

Strange; I spent 6 hours hot lapping the past few days and felt completely the opposite: best yet. The nuances of each car, throttle steer, feeling under braking all seem the best they've been yet from my perspective. Mind you, this is road cars only not GTs or open wheel or anything. That's more my cup of tea.

This, overall better feel, much better bumper to bumper racing.

Quote from Storm_Cloud :

Quote from lamerr :

Quote from Storm_Cloud :

Turn the cheat line off if you're going to crow about a world record on Youtube.

Ok ok Mister cloud, can You abide now?

Holy no oh no - no virtuel racing line and goes faster still? Good point cloud, I like that arrogance..

Nice to know I was living rent free in your head all yesterday afternoon.

Yes for the whole 6:04 mins during the next lap You were in my head("such clouded arrogance is fuel")
So no I thank You.

Quote from Storm_Cloud :

Turn the cheat line off if you're going to crow about a world record on Youtube.

Ok ok Mister cloud, can You abide now?

Holy no oh no - no virtuel racing line and goes faster still? Good point cloud, I like that arrogance..

Good moan

On or off doesnt make a difference for me, its only there as visual aid for the viewer.

The new update is really great..

Did a lap in the Mazda 787B around Nordscleife.

It works for me..

But it seems that it still does not work for some people, I am posting for a guy who cant log on here.

A screenshot from him

A hotlap in the Alfa Romeo GTA, in my opinion the best car in the dream pack..

Last edited by lamerr, Thu, 19 Mar 2015 04:25.

Quote from Hyperactive :

Here is a lap from 2005:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-f83ruqcOk
Notice that the speed through turn 7 is about 120kmh when he is going as fast as he can. Also notice that if you go off the runoff is downhill.

That (velocidad) speedometer is clearly not working, so that 120kmh is no way near the actual speed, just to clarify.

Last edited by Flame CZE, Wed, 8 Oct 2014 21:19.

Was a really great race today..

But seriously this useless, ignorant, moronic and idiotic inconsistency from the stewards is such a farce, how can they decide to penalize Magnussen for that T1 incident, I just cant make sense of the way they figure out who`s to get a penalty and who isnt.
We have seen drivers forcing other drivers off the track several times this season, ex. Lewis blatantly forced Nico off in Hungary(which in my opinion was perfectly fine) and not being penalized.

Im flabbergasted as to how moronic these so-called race stewards are and as to how they come to their conclusions. Let the drivers race and stop these silly race ruining penalties.

Haha I actually knew how to do it, but since these Corse cheaters cut over the pitlane lines, I did the same thing. And when exiting the pitlane I was fully aware that we had to stay to the left of the cones(just like entering the pitlane), but since this Corse / J A T I nub went straight onto the race track, I decided that I had to cut a bit off in a desperate attempt to catch this hacker, and prevent him for taking an illegal win.

I protest this illegal win from Corse / J A T I, he forced me to do illegal stuff too, please give some kind of penalty....

Well technically if Jati hadnt bumped You after turn 3, I would technically have had it by a bigger margin.

Anyway good race and finish

Options axis ff - turn wheel left full lock+right full lock and then back to center. Click c next to the wheel slider for fully centering the wheel,(maybe also press pedals fully down after that) lock axis after these procedures.

Just got this game the other day, I am wondering how do I setup an online server? I just want to drive some laps around the Ring with a friend in practice mode. I tried searching for a guide, but it seems really complicated? Help needed thanks!

Really a great quali session, I think we are in for one very exciting race tommorow.

Quote from dekojester :

Compound restricted to R2 so the tyres don't turn to ice near instantly during a SC period. If the tyres didn't cool so fast on the R4s there'd be no use for a restriction pretty much.

Well thats how it is, people would need to manage that after a SC period, also nobody would be driving R4s as R3s are the better race tire(and a lot more enjoyable to drive).

Would probably have signed up if it was not an R2 restricted race. I never understood the sense of restricting the other tire compounds and quite frankly always disliked this aspect.

Quote from amp88 :

https://vine.co/v/MD0BgJYVeam

Ready to comprehend now?

Yeah had not seen that particular birds eye footage until now, I see how Perez is at fault.

How anyone can claim that was Perez`s fault if beyond comprehension.. Anyway it was a great race in the end.

Or this one
http://www.vipboxeu.co/motorsp ... s-live-stream-online.html