Why be so harsh on the fella ,it's not like tjoonink has ever been suggested before?

plus i think it's a good idea, just add a little twist to it...
U start out with a fuly "tuned" (bodykited) car when u buy your license and every year that passes one part will disappear so after 5years u have a normall looking car.

Also make it so every new user has a standard car and per year that passes they can tune it, really tune ; not slap on bodykits, so it has 5%more HP/grip/torque/speed(add choices depending on what u want).
So the new players will all be driving about in cars with huge bodykits and no power while the longtime members get guaranteed wins over said newbies in normall looking cars.
Also have a Uber tune that is reserved for the devs so we can recognize them online when they pass us at mach 4.

Sounds good ,doesnt it?

Ps. Anyone who doesnt add a +1 to my suggestion is either stoopid or a tjoonink-hater.

edit : Note that if your sarcasm meter doesnt rev over 8k rpm ,it will probably break and cause u to take this post serious. :revs:

Wien, when someone asks you a very stupid question for which the answer is clearly seen right in front of his eyes. How do you reply?

I usually say something on the lines of: "Are you stupid? The answer is right there." Never had my teeth remodelled. Usually the person reacts on the lines of: "Oh heck*. Why didn't I see that?" Has happened the other way around too and I've not taken offence.

Sometimes you just are a bleeding idiot and you need the fact pointed out to you.

*read f$£@

@Noccy
Your idea is just stoopid.
LFS is about racing not ricing. And most people want close races. Not just zoom past everyone but close fights where it's your ability as a driver that counts.
Yes I hate the "tuning" that you refer to. Besides there are a bunch of games that allow you to "tune" your ride but only a few good racing simulators.

Quote from March Hare :

I usually say something on the lines of: "Are you stupid? The answer is right there."

Sure, I do too. But only to people I know well and that know me. I would never say stuff like that to people I don't know, and I doubt you would too.

I would just prefer if people at least gave the new guys a chance before ripping them a new one (having a go at aroX is just fine, he should have learnt by now ). It makes it more likely for them to improve and start contributing to this community, instead of getting insulted and going to RSC complaining about the rude LFSers.

Actually I say that to strangers too. But that doesn't happen very often because we Finns don't talk to strangers. We grunt and mumble at them but don't talk.
Another reason why my teeth have stayed in my mouth might be the fact that I'm a relatively tall and I don't suffer from anorexia.

Auzas, what is a drift car?
I've never understood that term.

*sigh* this crap again :rolleyes: And I mean all of this crap: the n00bish failure to search (it's a car game, it's five years old, tuning may have come up once or twice already), the uber-n00bish ignorance of the auto-search (which was implemented to prevent exactly this kind of crap and because noone uses the ****ing manual search), the usual ignorance of the Suggested Improvements sticky, the usual tear-the-n00b-a-new-anus (which I agree with) & the usual arguments that follow. Here's my list of suggestions:

1) newbs, use the search. If not, at least use your goddam brain. It's highly likely that what you think is an awesome idea ("make it like t3h NFS zomfg") has been suggested before. It's not like 'tuning' was invented yesterday and you're the first guy to notice.

2) regulars, I know from experience it's sometimes fun to rip someone a new orifice. I could say something here about being nice to noobs who get it wrong, but I won't There are so many ways to avoid re-suggesting things (think, search, read being three, then there's the auto-search which, as the name suggests, does it for you!) that there's really no excuse.

If you manage to avoid thinking, searching & reading (& ignoring the auto-search) when considering a new post then I believe you fully deserve to have a new anus installed by an experienced renovator like Ian H. Sure, he's blunt and tactless. Um. That's it. But I'm sure some of us are grateful to have blunt, tactless people on the forum because our own social graces prevent us from being so deucedly improvident and having someone around to say what you think (but wouldn't actually say) is quite useful

OP: welcome to LFS

You don't even need to search. I just did a quick thread start and the word "tuning" brings up 5 other threads (I assume 4 before this one) in the auto-matching whatsit.
So forum etiquette = EPIC FAIL.

I stand by my semi-C&P anyway

To be honest, i think LFS has a enough of that as you can customize your own skins... we don't need anymore if LFS was like NFS, there wouldnt be as much people playing it because there all the same...

Quote from Auzas :

Car ,tuned for drifting There's no such a brand "Drift car"

Then why are people asking for a "drift car" to be added to LFS?

Quote from Hankstar :

I believe you fully deserve to have a new anus installed by an experienced renovator like Ian H.

I LOLD

I think he OP might have gotten it a bit too harsh, but he deserves it. Although I have my doubts that any lesson will be learned.

What I don't share with some of you, is that boiling hate for the "sliding boys". They practice just as hard and enjoy the game just as much. There are crap drifters and there are impressively skilled ones, just as you would find in circuit racing. If it floats their boat, why should it do the same to yours? I believe, having a diversity of communities, that all enjoy the same game from different perspectives is a great idea.

If you don't like drifting, why bash it like there is no tomorrow? Just don't go to their servers and forums, as simple as that. And if someone (like our OP) posts some really stupid suggestions, why not just redirect him to the post, where it has already been discussed.

Btw, Ian H., telling an idiot that he's an idiot, does not achieve anything, he will still remain one. I don't see the point, unless it gives you some sort of wicked satisfaction.

I find the best way to avoid stuff that shits you off (stop me if this is too damned obvious) is to avoid places where you know you'll find such things, such as (in this instance) threads with 'drift' or 'tune' in the title, drift servers and the entire Improvement Suggestions forum in general Unless, of course, you enjoy installing new orifices in fresh n00bs in which case, go right ahead and install your brains out because it can be very entertaining for some us, in a very bloody-minded 'Christians vs Lions' kind of way

Because they have no idea how to setup or drive the XRT or XRR, one presumes

hey, i don't think that visual mods are necessary... but there should be real cars along with the race car counterparts...

but hey, @thread starter... just get a tweak of some kind... and race in a server where you know the people and where EVERYONE is tuning their cars... you can get engine, transmission, and weight mods, and you can already mod the suspension and gearbox in the garage, you can totally modify a car to be like a real car...

LFS is a Great Racing And Drifting Simulator, Anyone Who Thinks Drifting Is Not A Test Of Skill Is, For Lack Of A Better Word An Idiot.

Any Of You Anti 'Ricers' Ever Drifted A REAL Car? Its Not As Simple As Driving In A Straight Line, Especially Trying Not To Slide Into Walls At 100 Km/h, You Really Have To Try And Restle It Around The Track With Skill. Anyone Can Drive In A Straight Line, Just Some Faster Than Others. With Drifting You Either Can Or You Cant Simple As That, Which Suggests That All You Anti 'Ricers' Have Tried AND FAILED.

Bunch Of Whiners

:feedtroll:

@bradj234
It's still harder to win a race than to drift a car, nuff' said.
And 'Ricing' is not related to drifting at all, only if you want it to.
Also, almos every racer is able to drift, as it IS an emergency method to recover control when you loose grip, or contacto on mid-turn.

Quote from bradj234 :

LFS is a Great Racing And Drifting Simulator, Anyone Who Thinks Drifting Is Not A Test Of Skill Is, For Lack Of A Better Word An Idiot.

Any Of You Anti 'Ricers' Ever Drifted A REAL Car? Its Not As Simple As Driving In A Straight Line, Especially Trying Not To Slide Into Walls At 100 Km/h, You Really Have To Try And Restle It Around The Track With Skill. Anyone Can Drive In A Straight Line, Just Some Faster Than Others. With Drifting You Either Can Or You Cant Simple As That, Which Suggests That All You Anti 'Ricers' Have Tried AND FAILED.

Bunch Of Whiners

And quess what kind of an idiot bumped up this P.O.S thread after it had been dead and forgotten for almost a year...

A ricing drifter.
Way to go! You sure are making a very strong case in favour of drifters.

Quote from March Hare :

And quess what kind of an idiot bumped up this P.O.S thread after it had been dead and forgotten for almost a year...

A ricing drifter.
Way to go! You sure are making a very strong case in favour of drifters.

Word, and I would like to add :

Quote from Hankstar :

Because they have no idea how to setup or drive the XRT or XRR, one presumes

I would also like to quote bradj*insert random numbers here*

Quote from bradj234 :

Anyone Can Drive In A Straight Line, Just Some Faster Than Others.

I suggest you learn more about racing, since you seem to be confused by stating that track racing = drag racing.
It is more difficult to drive as fast as you can in a corner than to drift it 20 mph slower with a perfect angle.
Plus, as you said, anyone can drive in a straight line. I would like to add : some cars faster than others. There are no skills required in a straight line, just money (look at the wangan craze in Japan).

And ricing is nothing related to drifting. It is just for the show to have some huge bodykits and a spoiler, but it doesn't do anything for the car. I saw my dad drift a Mercedes 190E W124 (old one) around a roundabout. May I have to say that with its mere 120 hp (yet with a high torque), softerish suspension, heavy weight and big length, and stock everything (not alloy wheels nor the factory sport spoiler), it has nothing to do with rice and yet it can hold a drift...

I suggest you stop playing NFS. Because one day I might come with my miata in NFSU2, with a stock bodykit, stock rims, stock everything except some engine and the suspension/tires (tuned after learning the tuning in LFS), beat the crap out of your fully tuned Nismo JDM Yoko Bilstein Brembo Evostar Lexus IS300

Quote from Zen321 :

And ricing is nothing related to drifting. It is just for the show to have some huge bodykits and a spoiler, but it doesn't do anything good for the car.

Fixed it for ya

Quote from bradj234 :

LFS is a Great Racing And Drifting Simulator, Anyone Who Thinks Drifting Is Not A Test Of Skill Is, For Lack Of A Better Word An Idiot.

Any Of You Anti 'Ricers' Ever Drifted A REAL Car? Its Not As Simple As Driving In A Straight Line, Especially Trying Not To Slide Into Walls At 100 Km/h, You Really Have To Try And Restle It Around The Track With Skill. Anyone Can Drive In A Straight Line, Just Some Faster Than Others. With Drifting You Either Can Or You Cant Simple As That, Which Suggests That All You Anti 'Ricers' Have Tried AND FAILED.

Bunch Of Whiners

Only thing harder than racing or drifting is to understand why people capilitize the first letter of every word when they type. And as others have said, well done on resurecting a thread with a comment that wasn't even neccessary.

Quote from March Hare :

Fixed it for ya

Thank you very much for the fix, sometimes words escape my surveillance system

sooo.. why do some poeple relate ricers with race/drift cars? a ricer is a nice car turned into a hidious monster ready to show off... but a race/drift car was made to do something awsome that doesnt involve cuiseing and showing off your work-in-progress to others..

Quote from chavm481 :

sooo.. why do some poeple relate ricers with race/drift cars? a ricer is a nice car turned into a hidious monster ready to show off... but a race/drift car was made to do something awsome that doesnt involve cuiseing and showing off your work-in-progress to others..

We don't, bradj234 does.
As you can see, he says that "Because We Are Anti 'Ricers' Means That We Can't Manage To Drift A Car In Real Life Or In Live For Speed"

Then, when nobody said that drift=rice, he, the clueless one, said it