After extensive testing, (well, this evening ) myself and JO53PHS have created the XF-Baby-R as a competitor to the UF-Baby-R. The XF-Baby-R is simply the XFR with 43% restriction. Putting the two cars together makes for some exciting racing, as the XF-Baby-R is faster in a straight line, but the UF-Baby-R is faster in the corners. The two cars will debut together in Round 3 of the LFS Beginner's Cup, around the South City Chicane Course Reversed. Attached is a base setup for the XF-Baby-R. Enjoy!

Aren't those cars supposed to be balanced already?

Anyone got a set where all the GTR cars are equal (the three faster cars are slowed down)?

Dunno... but we re-balanced them.

No, at the moment, the XFR is way faster than the UFR...Just like the UF1 and XFG aren't balanced...

No - the babies are now balanced.

What about an FZ Daddy R and an FX Daddy R

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No - the babies are now balanced.

No, I meant the un-restricted XFR and the UFR

Quote from JO53PHS :

What about an FZ Daddy R and an FX Daddy R

But they would just complain about there backs for the length of a race...

Quote from dougie-lampkin :

No, I meant the un-restricted XFR and the UFR

Sorry - misunderstood you!

Quote from dougie-lampkin :

But they would just complain about there backs for the length of a race...

Quote from dougie-lampkin :

No, I meant the un-restricted XFR and the UFR

They are balanced. Just like Jatko said about Baby-r. UFR is faster on tighter tracks, slower on straighter ones...

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After extensive testing, (well, this evening ) myself and JO53PHS have created the XF-Baby-R as a competitor to the UF-Baby-R. The XF-Baby-R is simply the XFR with 43% restriction. Putting the two cars together makes for some exciting racing, as the XF-Baby-R is faster in a straight line, but the UF-Baby-R is faster in the corners. The two cars will debut together in Round 3 of the LFS Beginner's Cup, around the South City Chicane Course Reversed. Attached is a base setup for the XF-Baby-R. Enjoy!

great set guys i wish to see this car in CTRA UF-BR

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They are balanced. Just like Jatko said about Baby-r. UFR is faster on tighter tracks, slower on straighter ones...

Yes, when racing a 43% restricted XFR...

Concept Racing owns the 'Baby-R' name.

We will however allow you to call it Junior-R ,Toddler-R, Infant-R, Litllebubbakins-R or Cutesywootsy-R

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Yes, when racing a 43% restricted XFR...

But also when they are unrestricted. They are both balanced XFR and UFR. As was mentioned earlier.

Thats what cruising gets you :rolleyes:

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Concept Racing owns the 'Baby-R' name.

...and only allowed UKCT to use it for the CTRA-Servers... just to complete your statement moose

But I thought the UFOC would own the name 'Baby-R', which is now owned by concept racing. Otherwise it would have been a property of ZWR!

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...and only allowed UKCT to use it for the CTRA-Servers... just to complete your statement moose

But I thought the UFOC would own the name 'Baby-R', which is now owned by concept racing. Otherwise it would have been a property of ZWR!

Afaik the name UFOC is owned by ZWR still and 'Baby-R' is Concept Racing's. Though that is still all to be sorted out.

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But also when they are unrestricted. They are both balanced XFR and UFR. As was mentioned earlier.

Then why was 43% restriction added to the XFR to balance them?

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Then why was 43% restriction added to the XFR to balance them?

Ok, you obviously don't get this.

The UF Baby-R is a UFR with 45% restriction.
J@tko wanted to see if the XFR could be restricted to make it as much fun.
They ended up saying that 43% restriction for the XFR was equally balanced than the 45% restricted UFR.


Get it?

Quote from niall09 :

Ok, you obviously don't get this.

The UF Baby-R is a UFR with 45% restriction.
J@tko wanted to see if the XFR could be restricted to make it as much fun.
They ended up saying that 43% restriction for the XFR was equally balanced than the 45% restricted UFR.


Get it?

Ah yes

lol I didn't see Baby UF, I thought it was the stock one :banghead:

Quote from dougie-lampkin :

Ah yes

lol I didn't see Baby UF, I thought it was the stock one :banghead:

Sorry, I didn't mean to be so in your face about it Should have added a smiley

To sort out any copyright issues (:razz, if CR/ZWR have an issue with me calling it the XF-Baby-R then stuff you, (I mean I'll change it!)

To tell you the truth, the balancing isn't quite perfect. What I'd ideally want is a 43.5% restriction, but that's not possible.

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we re-balanced them.

Quote from J@tko :

the babies are now balanced.

Quote from J@tko :

to tell you the truth, the balancing isn't quite perfect.

Im not sure Im a fan of restricting it just seems to throw a bunch of yellows.

SD.

Quote from J@tko :

To tell you the truth, the balancing isn't quite perfect. What I'd ideally want is a 43.5% restriction, but that's not possible.

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Perfect!

You were lying

Or did you think further about it after we had done the testing

Quote from JO53PHS :

You were lying

Or did you think further about it after we had done the testing

I thought about it a bit later. The XF-Baby-R is a bit too quick in the straights, but the lap times balance out. If you have an XF-Baby-R and can block well in the corners then it's impossible for a UF-BR to overtake.

Quote from J@tko :

I thought about it a bit later. The XF-Baby-R is a bit too quick in the straights, but the lap times balance out. If you have an XF-Baby-R and can block well in the corners then it's impossible for a UF-BR to overtake.

Are you gonna stay with 43% or go up to 44%*

*changing to 44% might cause more confusion

Quote from J@tko :

To sort out any copyright issues (:razz, if CR/ZWR have an issue with me calling it the XF-Baby-R then stuff you, (I mean I'll change it!)

To tell you the truth, the balancing isn't quite perfect. What I'd ideally want is a 43.5% restriction, but that's not possible.

Hey there,

As the person who came up with the UF Baby-R car (and part of the group that came up with the name and Fall-Out league) there is obviously no reason why you can not use the name UF Baby-R.

It is the name we gave to the new class of car, however I would suggest/advise that you called the XF restricted car something else.

The reason why should be obvious:

You will get people confused talking about different 'Baby' car's, which run with different restrictions.

Example, GT2 cars are not called GT Baby-R's they are called GT2.

Also you are/will be using it for your own league then maybe it is reward for you taking the time to properly balance them etc etc

You could call it in reality anything, but I personally wold prefer if you did not use the Baby-R name for the other FWD cars.

How about XF-Cadet or something like that, an idea thought is much more rewarding to see used that just using a name that someone else has already taken the time to think up


Cheers and Regards,


Dru.