found it i''m // blind..... lol just gonna try dmz i think

mc68 just connected so i guess its workin, thats with out dmz

woo hoo ok its workin' i can admin it and i have 10laps in stead of 24 hours lol its also appering in the game list as "atherton fox racing"

big thx guys, the thing i love most about lfs is its comunity

p.s the reason it wasn't apperin in the list was because i had "do not disply empty servers" ticked lol (noobie) lol

thanks again guys