Read my post again, Jak, and read his. We're both speaking equally in parallel.

it seems you were not directing your visicous at the post above, but at "anyone", then i stand corrected

Sorry Sam, i still love you *sobs*

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Hmm.. well the first thing to be clear on is that torrenting while you're playing online with other people is one of the most irresponsible things you can do on LFS.

You cannot race reliably with other people while you're torrenting, no matter what standard of connection you've got, and if you're going to try then I think you should expect to be ejected from servers as a consequence.

I probably ban one person every day from the STCC servers for lagging like mad and refusing to fix the problem. If I see someone torrent lagging - and torrents have a very particular looking lag issue in LFS - they're removed from the server until they've fixed the problem. If it happens more than once, the 2nd time will be a much longer ban. You have a responsibility to the people you're racing with.

if that's aimed at me then I ALWAYS switch it off when I'm playing online anyway. I know it makes things lag like hell which is why i only even download when i'm either sleeping or just browsing and talking to people on MSN

but we're wondering away from the help i need here...

anyone any ideas of a decent ISP/phone provider then?