Well, it's not scientific but it's interesting anyway.

Am I missing something?

edit: Ahhh, I see the light!!!

Hi
I voted paddles, ust fore the reason i dont have a shifter

I voted Other because I have an Act Labs Shifter, but I can't currently use it. My table is too thick so I can't mount the shifter on it. Until I get something to mount the shifter to I am using the sequential stick on my DFP and the paddles I use for the single seaters.

I used to use sequential shifter for everything on my momo, with my G25 I'm mainly using the H shifter. Of course I'll use sequential for Formulas, possibly GTRs I haven't decided yet. I never use paddles - a) it's not as immersive and b) I use them to look left and right.

i use paddles, just started 2-3 months ago because i hated how the FXR came out of turns in 6th gear.

I use paddles only because my wheel doesn´t have a stick shifter but for some mysterious reason I voted for the wrong option...

Double shifting or no-down-shifting-at-all with my MS wheel. So only paddles atm. I don't have shifter and don't have any interest into making one until LFS supports one well enough.

I use the sequential shifter on my DFP most of the time (paddles for look left + right) and my homemade H-shifter occasionally on the road cars in LFS and for N2003.

Used a H almost exclusively for months and months now for road going and GTR's. Never really drive single seaters but if I did, I'd use the paddles for them.

I use only paddles. I jave just a SideWinder wheel

I use a H shifter for every car, Formula/GTR/etc (except BF1 cause that has 7+1 gears)

Hyperactive: What other features would you like to see LFS support, with regards to H shifters, before you would consider using one? Im using "FF Shifter" with an MS FFB Precision 2 Joystick, works a treat. I suppopse proper clutch modeling would be nice, for bad shifts/ stalls etc.

Paddles with single-seaters, seq stick for all others.

depends on my mood.

if i just wanna have fun (like on public servers) i use the seq shifter, in hotlapping or longer races i use paddles.

Quote from DratsaB :

Hyperactive: What other features would you like to see LFS support, with regards to H shifters, before you would consider using one? Im using "FF Shifter" with an MS FFB Precision 2 Joystick, works a treat. I suppopse proper clutch modeling would be nice, for bad shifts/ stalls etc.

I don't want to go too deep on this but for my tastes the clutch pedal & drivetrain systems in LFS are too slow and hard to be competitive (not because the 3-pedal systems has its disabilities and special technique requirements but because of the easier and faster driving aids). The way to go now is to flatshift with autoclutch. Yes, it is as "realistic" but there is no tradeoff, like drivetrain damage or engine damage so flatshifting all the way I haven't even looked into the manual clutch&shifter thing yet, but I'll probably use old FF joystic and build my own stuff around it

Sorry for "OT"

I mean, it's a valid point Hyperactive, I just don't care enough about going fast to worry about it. So long as I'm driving hard, to my limits, and having fun, surely that's all that matters?

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I mean, it's a valid point Hyperactive, I just don't care enough about going fast to worry about it. So long as I'm driving hard, to my limits, and having fun, surely that's all that matters?

Makes sense to me. I didn't flatshift before I had the g25, always left autolift on. Just seemed wrong to do otherwise. Made me cringe everytime the revs spiked.

I'm certainly not going to do it now that I have the new toy. ;-) I am having much more fun right now, as frustrating as it still is at this stage of practice, flailing away at my pedals and h-shifter than I would just sticking with paddles and auto-clutch/auto-lift, and forget about flatshift.

Not that I have a problem with people who want to be competitive exploiting all the loopholes -- racing is all about taking every possible means to go fast, right? But personally, I'd rather just flail away. It puts a bigger smile on my face.

lyd

I always use the paddles. I never use the shifter on my g25, sorta seems a waste but I REALLy dislike the H shifter and the way it moves/sounds so clicky and cheap. I only use the buttons on the shifter because theres not enough on the wheel. Don't use the clutch either lol

For city driving I'd prob use the H shifter, but for races you have to be quick and quick means using the aids. Until there's some benefit to shifting manually over the aids then I'll just use them.

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but for races you have to be quick and quick means using the aids.

Ah-ah, only if you want to win.

Quote from Bob Smith :

I mean, it's a valid point Hyperactive, I just don't care enough about going fast to worry about it. So long as I'm driving hard, to my limits, and having fun, surely that's all that matters?

I have nothing wrong against having fun . It is just the thing that I have no idea what kind of transmissions should I use with the GTRs or with fwd GTRs. And I don't want to build one until I see how LFS implements these things. I mean, the shifter, you can make it a H-shifter or a sequental one, or even try to make the shifter good enough to be used like the G25 shifter, to have a 2-in-1 solution. By looking at the scripts folder in my U30 LFS folder it seems that MRT and FOX are the only cars to get sequental transmissions. The reason why I haven't started building my shifter is that I don't want to build a full blown H-pattern shifter only to find out that my favourite car has a sequental box. Or vice versa.

But basically it is down to the fact that I don't have shifter nor 3 pedal systems available atm.

Quote from Bob Smith :

I mean, it's a valid point Hyperactive, I just don't care enough about going fast to worry about it. So long as I'm driving hard, to my limits, and having fun, surely that's all that matters?

I'm with hyperactive on this one. It's less about 'winning' and more about 'not handicapping myself'.