The war between the games. I mean that lfs will lose the war if the players will keep behaving like that, ofc maybe im wrong, maybe they dont and i see it so, idk. I'm afraid to tell my full opinion cause i'll get insulted.
There's no war between sims. Everyone has their upsides and downsides.
Like LFS has great online mode,great physics,but is weaker towards graphics (which for some reason seems to be one of the most important areas for racers) and doesn't have that big userbase. It's still the best value for a buck out there.
iRacing has a huge userbase and much content,but is just a tick cheaper then real racing,which is enough explained considering costs.
Assetto Corsa has the best graphics,has huge and increasing content,but has utterly stupid online mode. And their devs seem to cut corners every way they can just to push more DLCs out there for more revenue.
And then there's rFactor,about I have low knowledge,I just know that it hasn't the best reviews about physics. Also the problem searching all the mods just to join a server doesn't seem too apealing to me.
Last and deffinitely least - there is pCARS. Barely considered a proper simulator,so I never cared about it,hence the lacking comment about it's pros and contras.
So basically in this "war" you refer,everyone holds their stations and barely is able to attack and destroy any of their opponents.
See,I have no fear to tell my opinion to avoid insulting,iR and AC fanboys will do that anyway.
I do not understand the person who did pereulok. He has talent and all he finds to do is an unfair (dishonest) competition. Instead of helping with pereulok as I think he believed, he simply contributed to making LFS even less popular.
I can not understand the purpose.
Having more people when it's free is easy!
In reality he just modified 1 exe and maybe 2 dll. But the time he used to create the website and all these features have taken a considerable time. And that's where I do not understand this motivation.
It's a shame to spoil his talent like that.
Yes indeed. Hypocrites. Same goes for calling others criminals. Only one who actually broke the law was guy who created LFSP, their accusations and hating is much bigger crime in eu. To some video game = real life.
I agree that LFSP was not the problem itself but the result of it. They keep focusing on consequences instead of fixing the problem itself. How short-sighted is that?
"lfs is cheaper than your pc bla bla" - they still don't understand what buyer's market is.
Your understanding of the law seems to be based on nothing more than your desires, R1hard. You broke the law when you applied a crack to LFS, and also when you downloaded the movies/songs you mentioned 'for personal use'.
As for buyer's market... that's buyer, not pirate.
It's completly legal to torrent stuff. He who uploads is responsible. Maybe in some few countries that's too illegal. Care to specify what exact law did crack users break?
You still dodge real problems.. and clearly you didnt understand what buyers market is
If we want to synthesize a little, we can say that the means of payment offered by LFS are not always easy for everyone.
A solution like the transfer (IBAN) would be simple and effective.
LFS is not expensive for me, and it's not us to decide. If everyone buy a license, you can talk about lowering the price. But this is not the case!
I also think that LFS should be the only host for the servers to cushion a few expenses and especially to protect his exe
Maybe also I agree on the fact that LFS has not changed enormously in recent years. And maybe there are 2 solutions. In reality the S3 is already finished, which I do not believe. Either I think LFS could make an effort on mods and tweak only for drifts/cruises servers.
What? No, as soon as you download a file that is protected by copyright - you are breaking a law. I don't know about which countries you are talking about, but at least in all "civilized" ones there are laws for that.
Well torrents as such are not illegal of course, you can use torrents to exchange freeware or whatever you want that is not protected by any copyright stuff.
Well I tried to point out that changes are need however I cant prove a thing if everyone's deaf. As long as things are like this, all I can say is that. Maybe if you were to listen another cracked mega community wont happen.
Cracking any game is illegal and it can be punished. Repeat could easly support any punishment applied in his country, but it was agreed with the devs. The way i see it is that devs knew about it but they didn't do anything, and it got bigger an bigger. Or maybe i'm wrong.
Nobody. Just liek nobody cares about cracking lfs is wrong. It was reply to this
Real problems are still same and it's you who try to avoid them and switch between topics writing ignorant bs. Your last post is another example, first you bring it up then you're like "who cares". Only one who said something meaningful so far is MrSam.
The only way to counter your pereulok is that LFS releases a new version with obviously new content without sharing the server files. And your pereulok will not be on the same level.
Because i think your pereulok will reopen, it's just a matter of time.
Is does not mather what we say devs will never listen to us. Lets face it lfs has no promotion at all (as far i know). This game is dead. And come on you cant just live of just one game make atleast 2 or more games one that give you money all the time.
Pereulok wont come back so stop fighting for it. It does not mather wat you say it wont come back. And yes $45 is alot for a 12 year old game that's still in beta. In the 4 years i had left lfs all i seen is 1 new track 1.
Thats all i have to say.
You used cracked LFS for 4 years. What do you want me to say? That you will never buy the game?
Even if there is an important upgrade, I'm sure you will not buy LFS.
So I think it's a waste of time talking with you.
Thanks MrEsper, i didn't know you could read minds!
How can you be so sure? You know him? Have you been in his house? You read Avitron's post, then you "guess" that he will never buy the game no matter what, and therefore you consider he's not worth listening. You're basically talking shit about a person, just because you "think" he will do something, without having absolutely any clue that could lead you to that answer.
Listen, i can understand that you guys are angry at us, but try to be logical here. We may have our differences, we may have our mistakes, but everyone here is trying to discuss this topic in a civilized way. The post you made about Repeat's talent was great. Keep it that way.
Anyways, i will answer to you message with an example. A few years ago i started to play Minecraft with my friends (downloaded, of course). I liked the game so much that, after a few months, i bought it (it was 20$ btw). What I'm trying to say is that, if i don't buy LFS it's because i consider it's not worth the price. So, if LFS devs do something about the game that makes me think about it again (like reducing the price, or maybe a great update with good content), then i would definitely consider buying this game. I did it with Minecraft, and i will do it with LFS if a change like that happens.
Yes I keep saying he will not buy LFS. In reality I meant most of you will not buy LFS.
On Form :
Coming here complaining that the game is expensive and that it lacks content while you have used it dishonestly for several years. It is still abused!
The worst thing is that you complain when pereulok closes.
If you had come before pereulok was closed ,you would have more credibility.
On the background :
I somewhat agree that it lacks content and I have already explained in a previous post.
...you still don't get this do you? Including pretty much all who disagree my opinion ( which is wierd, I know )
EDIT2: Anyway, while waiting player database is rising and increasing, all I have to do is: Wait!
EDIT3: Okay, getting more seriously ( still keeping my opinion ) This is for everybody... well, those who cracks the game with false arguments, including others
Do you know what means tire physics? Do you know how it is affected and effected in code-wise to implementing in software? Have you ever tried to code anything?
Do you really feel quantity is better to quality? If that is so, why you are still using LFS? Why you are not getting more creative and find something new while waiting an updates? Do you need something fresh in your life? ( Sorry, this was actually rude question, but anyway... )
While you think I dropped the soap on the floor and slip on it... Not really.
Have you read ever Scawen´s or any other developer´s posts in this forum? Have you ever thought that their opinion towards to development has still not changed as in main priority? I think if they have changed plans, I would be a bit more worry about it, reason or two, regardless of any.
Despite admitting slow progress, it is not really slow. Check M.U.G.E.N game and look how slow development is there, though this is absolutely other genre, but main goal there is same. ( Though developing cycle and actual development differs a lot, same priority is kept all these years though )
If having more content on LFS, I guess you would get bored anyway. So I think the goals and targets you try to find won't suit you as best. You are only here because you admire this game/sim. You honestly don't want to make it "die", that's why you are using cracked versions. The other story though is then why you still not have bought the official license. I bet reason is not slow development or no progress, because if there would be fast progress, you would still not buy it do you? Maybe the real problem is payment options. That I would agree in that part and would understand why still using cracked versions.
But you would not blame this pereulok is gone and not gonna buy license bsc slow development progress. Problem is more deep than in air-flowing opinions. But we all are different and we all have opinion which differs in part or another.
My main goal in this post is to make you think.
My answer is: You are bored, you are restricted to pay with payment methods ( I partially to fully understand this, as I REFUSE to use PayPal ), but there is always OTHER way to get official one.
Or, you simply try to rebel for slow progress... You fail on that greatly I am afraid.
Speaking more on payment methods. I really wanted to buy some stuff from LFS Merchandise before closing it, but I simply could not get a way enough fast to buy any ( and I refuse to use PayPal. )
There is crossover in my opinion, two things at once, that's why I am not the guy judging things right away. At least I try to make so I mentioned.
There could be much more to talk, but you should think yourself first. Ask yourself!
Laugh if you want... You completly missed my point.
Cracked users etc all this is extraneous. That's not reason why lfs is under water so no point of wasting resources on that. You find it funny but I think it's only realistic solution to boost licenced activity. Even if there was some update that would be just a retracement for a week or two, trend is still down.
Nice story you wrote about me but...
Also, I have logged in few times in year by inertia but I wouldn't say I'm still palying it.
edit: btw I moved on long time ago. It just amazes that ship is not sinking it's already deep under water but still you think best way to react is just waiting. Keep hoping for some miracle to happen while you could put brains to work and actually fix things. Like LFSP users said this community is one of the reason why lfs is unattractive. and is also too  to notice real problems. All you see is shitposting, barking, hypocrites, etc. ANd no, I wouldnt mind at all if lfs closed its doors.
You admire LFS don't you? that's why you try to find solutions, which are irrelevant, because you high likely won't make anything effective.
That's why we wait... And that EDIT3 was to everybody
EDIT: "ANd no, I wouldnt mind at all if lfs closed its doors."
What is the reason you are spending time in these forums then? Just for curiosity?
You just try to poke your efforts to break through other minds to somewhat annoyed as you talk and you do not care at same time... I claim you just try to test it out how to act towards to you.
Sorry, but not buying this...
Gone for now --->
Really... speak for yourself.
I only downloaded lfs so I could cruise around with freinds, not bcos I wanted hardcore sim. After cruising I just goofed around etc bcos it's video game like any other, for enterntainment. wich btw is like that for most users. Not everyone is here for dead-serious league racing
Seriously.. "then why are you even here" is not an argument. Besides, how often do you see me here?
I visited this forum maybe once or twice this year and since lfsp topic caught me I tuned in bcos that's just ridiculus how this game see problem in everything else but itself. You can ignore criticism and repeat everything is fine but that isn't very helpful, is it? If you don't agree with what I said that's ok.. just why posts like "why are you even here" etc? It just proves everything that was pointed out earlier by LFSP users.
Do You find new hobby? Please stop ruin that game anymore. We all want to see finished LFS but you why do that you want to ruin that great game you have 33 years and you don't understant this? THIS WAS WRONG WHAT YOU DO i hope you don't do it again please leave this game and better put your skills into nfs world if you will bring back to life nfs world online will be so nice becouse ea don't support this game anymore so you can reopen this will be a lot better for everyone than ruin LFS again. Thanks
Lets see the excuses/stupid arguments seen here:
"Why are you even here?"
"YOU DIDN'T BOUGHT IT YOU STUPID SO YOUR ARGUMENT IS INVALID"
"YOU CHEATED SO YOUR OPINION IS INVALID STFU"
"LFSP is killing the game"
"LFS is dead because of crack users"
"LFS is worth its price due to its quality + le physics"
"Your argument is just invalid(just to send a meme of that lelelelel)"
"While there's no content coming out why not be creative?(Sure everyone did almost everything from real life with this current limited content)
Comparisons(which I found them so ridiculous ):
LFS lifetime <> Mins of having pleasure with a Hooker.
Stealing <> Piracy(obviously you don't know shit when someone is doing that so trying to stop it is idiotic).
Now you're trying to swing back and forth troughout arguments that has been already discussed about.
You dumb **** AHAHAHAHAHAHAAH NFS world is dead for good, not to mention its DRM, also blackbox got ditched which was taking care of the game in 2012, after that it went into a shithole well covered, bricked and far from being put in some private server.
No thanks I don't want NFS world nice try(not really).