What? No, as soon as you download a file that is protected by copyright - you are breaking a law. I don't know about which countries you are talking about, but at least in all "civilized" ones there are laws for that.
Well torrents as such are not illegal of course, you can use torrents to exchange freeware or whatever you want that is not protected by any copyright stuff.
Well I tried to point out that changes are need however I cant prove a thing if everyone's deaf. As long as things are like this, all I can say is that. Maybe if you were to listen another cracked mega community wont happen.
Cracking any game is illegal and it can be punished. Repeat could easly support any punishment applied in his country, but it was agreed with the devs. The way i see it is that devs knew about it but they didn't do anything, and it got bigger an bigger. Or maybe i'm wrong.
The only way to counter your pereulok is that LFS releases a new version with obviously new content without sharing the server files. And your pereulok will not be on the same level.
Because i think your pereulok will reopen, it's just a matter of time.
Is does not mather what we say devs will never listen to us. Lets face it lfs has no promotion at all (as far i know). This game is dead. And come on you cant just live of just one game make atleast 2 or more games one that give you money all the time.
Pereulok wont come back so stop fighting for it. It does not mather wat you say it wont come back. And yes $45 is alot for a 12 year old game that's still in beta. In the 4 years i had left lfs all i seen is 1 new track 1.
Thats all i have to say.
You used cracked LFS for 4 years. What do you want me to say? That you will never buy the game?
Even if there is an important upgrade, I'm sure you will not buy LFS.
So I think it's a waste of time talking with you.
Thanks MrEsper, i didn't know you could read minds!
How can you be so sure? You know him? Have you been in his house? You read Avitron's post, then you "guess" that he will never buy the game no matter what, and therefore you consider he's not worth listening. You're basically talking shit about a person, just because you "think" he will do something, without having absolutely any clue that could lead you to that answer.
Listen, i can understand that you guys are angry at us, but try to be logical here. We may have our differences, we may have our mistakes, but everyone here is trying to discuss this topic in a civilized way. The post you made about Repeat's talent was great. Keep it that way.
Anyways, i will answer to you message with an example. A few years ago i started to play Minecraft with my friends (downloaded, of course). I liked the game so much that, after a few months, i bought it (it was 20$ btw). What I'm trying to say is that, if i don't buy LFS it's because i consider it's not worth the price. So, if LFS devs do something about the game that makes me think about it again (like reducing the price, or maybe a great update with good content), then i would definitely consider buying this game. I did it with Minecraft, and i will do it with LFS if a change like that happens.
Yes I keep saying he will not buy LFS. In reality I meant most of you will not buy LFS.
On Form :
Coming here complaining that the game is expensive and that it lacks content while you have used it dishonestly for several years. It is still abused!
The worst thing is that you complain when pereulok closes.
If you had come before pereulok was closed ,you would have more credibility.
On the background :
I somewhat agree that it lacks content and I have already explained in a previous post.
...you still don't get this do you? Including pretty much all who disagree my opinion ( which is wierd, I know )
EDIT2: Anyway, while waiting player database is rising and increasing, all I have to do is: Wait!
EDIT3: Okay, getting more seriously ( still keeping my opinion ) This is for everybody... well, those who cracks the game with false arguments, including others
Do you know what means tire physics? Do you know how it is affected and effected in code-wise to implementing in software? Have you ever tried to code anything?
Do you really feel quantity is better to quality? If that is so, why you are still using LFS? Why you are not getting more creative and find something new while waiting an updates? Do you need something fresh in your life? ( Sorry, this was actually rude question, but anyway... )
While you think I dropped the soap on the floor and slip on it... Not really.
Have you read ever Scawen´s or any other developer´s posts in this forum? Have you ever thought that their opinion towards to development has still not changed as in main priority? I think if they have changed plans, I would be a bit more worry about it, reason or two, regardless of any.
Despite admitting slow progress, it is not really slow. Check M.U.G.E.N game and look how slow development is there, though this is absolutely other genre, but main goal there is same. ( Though developing cycle and actual development differs a lot, same priority is kept all these years though )
If having more content on LFS, I guess you would get bored anyway. So I think the goals and targets you try to find won't suit you as best. You are only here because you admire this game/sim. You honestly don't want to make it "die", that's why you are using cracked versions. The other story though is then why you still not have bought the official license. I bet reason is not slow development or no progress, because if there would be fast progress, you would still not buy it do you? Maybe the real problem is payment options. That I would agree in that part and would understand why still using cracked versions.
But you would not blame this pereulok is gone and not gonna buy license bsc slow development progress. Problem is more deep than in air-flowing opinions. But we all are different and we all have opinion which differs in part or another.
My main goal in this post is to make you think.
My answer is: You are bored, you are restricted to pay with payment methods ( I partially to fully understand this, as I REFUSE to use PayPal ), but there is always OTHER way to get official one.
Or, you simply try to rebel for slow progress... You fail on that greatly I am afraid.
Speaking more on payment methods. I really wanted to buy some stuff from LFS Merchandise before closing it, but I simply could not get a way enough fast to buy any ( and I refuse to use PayPal. )
There is crossover in my opinion, two things at once, that's why I am not the guy judging things right away. At least I try to make so I mentioned.
There could be much more to talk, but you should think yourself first. Ask yourself!
You admire LFS don't you? that's why you try to find solutions, which are irrelevant, because you high likely won't make anything effective.
That's why we wait... And that EDIT3 was to everybody
EDIT: "ANd no, I wouldnt mind at all if lfs closed its doors."
What is the reason you are spending time in these forums then? Just for curiosity?
You just try to poke your efforts to break through other minds to somewhat annoyed as you talk and you do not care at same time... I claim you just try to test it out how to act towards to you.
Do You find new hobby? Please stop ruin that game anymore. We all want to see finished LFS but you why do that you want to ruin that great game you have 33 years and you don't understant this? THIS WAS WRONG WHAT YOU DO i hope you don't do it again please leave this game and better put your skills into nfs world if you will bring back to life nfs world online will be so nice becouse ea don't support this game anymore so you can reopen this will be a lot better for everyone than ruin LFS again. Thanks
Lets see the excuses/stupid arguments seen here:
"Why are you even here?"
"YOU DIDN'T BOUGHT IT YOU STUPID SO YOUR ARGUMENT IS INVALID"
"YOU CHEATED SO YOUR OPINION IS INVALID STFU"
"LFSP is killing the game"
"LFS is dead because of crack users"
"LFS is worth its price due to its quality + le physics"
"Your argument is just invalid(just to send a meme of that lelelelel)"
"While there's no content coming out why not be creative?(Sure everyone did almost everything from real life with this current limited content)
Comparisons(which I found them so ridiculous ):
LFS lifetime <> Mins of having pleasure with a Hooker.
Stealing <> Piracy(obviously you don't know shit when someone is doing that so trying to stop it is idiotic).
Now you're trying to swing back and forth troughout arguments that has been already discussed about.
You dumb **** AHAHAHAHAHAHAAH NFS world is dead for good, not to mention its DRM, also blackbox got ditched which was taking care of the game in 2012, after that it went into a shithole well covered, bricked and far from being put in some private server.
No thanks I don't want NFS world nice try(not really).
You can not see how people come to the conclusion that long-time crack users might not buy LFS even after a big update if they still have the opportunity to use a crack (and sadly, there probably will be new cracks)? Yes, we can not be 100% sure but judging from the picture most (not all) crack users painted of themselves here, it is IMO very likely.
And PLEASE stop with the "not worth the price" crap. Why would you use a cracked game for several years if you don't consider it worth its price? If I find a game that bad I would have better things to do than use it for years. I can partly understand using the crack for a few days to check out if you like the game and then buy it or leave it but using it for several years leads me to the conclusion that you had no intention at all of buying it any time soon, with or without updates. I don't think this conlusion is that far-fetched.
I will be happy if I'm proven wrong but until then, I have my doubts.
At this point I'd have to agree, S3 is not really worth the money. S2 was, at the point of the release however, and I don't regret buying either. But sure, LFS feels dated these days. From the standpoint of graphics, Project CARS and Assetto Corsa overshadow it easily.
But at some point over the last decade, I feel like the focus on our dear devs' lives has shifted from being commited to development to other things; it's gotten rather silent around LFS. It's kind of a shame, since I prepaid S3 nearly 10 years ago now, but not much has come out of it so far, but I'm always ready got surprised by exciting news.
So all in all: Worth the price, S3 today? Probably not. S2 back in the day? Definitely.
This thing with not worthing the price is an illusion. I myself realised that, if i still love lfs, only thing i can do is to buy it. Maybe it's a bit expensive, but that's the price, not more not less.
I hope i will be driving there with you guys one day, which will not be soon anyways.
Yes i used it and hosted it. But did you not read i had left lfs stopped playing it back in 2012 october. I just started playing again last month. And how can you be so sure i wont buy the game you are not my brain so stfu.
Indeed in 2007 it was worth its price of course, but I only knew about LFS in 2010 and many other racing sims cameout, making me undecided in what to choose, then in 2013 it already had more appealing racing sims than LFS.
That's the whole point we're trying to reach in a civilized way, the ship already sunk and kept underneath until now, but most of them see it floating which is an illusion.
I wonder herki...I wonder if it'll come an exciting update, my hopes are low on that.