Clearly the flat earth society has found it's new home here....
Here's an awesome conspiracy theory for you all to debunk; I claim that the earth is actually 'round', and not only that, it revolves around the sun.
And, I refuse to post 'proof' to support this conspiracy theory.
Everything in my last post post is actual, uncontested fact, and yet you still perform. Perhaps my views about the complete lack of education in the education system are even truer than even I actually believed.
OK, I'll try with really simple evidence for the clear 'retards', do try to show that your actually capable of thought and fact finding, things that were taught in primary school when I was growing up.
Did Rumsfeld claim that 2.3 billion was missing on 8 Sept 2001 ?
There's Rummy saying just that.........
Is the 911 Commissions report completely false ?
Indeed, the co-chairs of the Commission now admit that the Commission largely operated based upon political considerations.
9/11 Commission co-chair Lee Hamilton says “I don’t believe for a minute we got everything right”, that the Commission was set up to fail, that people should keep asking questions about 9/11, that the 9/11 debate should continue, and that the 9/11 Commission report was only “the first draft” of history.
9/11 Commissioner Bob Kerrey said that “There are ample reasons to suspect that there may be some alternative to what we outlined in our version . . . We didn’t have access . . . .”
9/11 Commissioner Timothy Roemer said “We were extremely frustrated with the false statements we were getting”
Former 9/11 Commissioner Max Cleland resigned from the Commission, stating: “It is a national scandal”; “This investigation is now compromised”; and “One of these days we will have to get the full story because the 9-11 issue is so important to America. But this White House wants to cover it up”.
9/11 Commissioner John Lehman said that “We purposely put together a staff that had - in a way - conflicts of interest“.
The Senior Counsel to the 9/11 Commission (John Farmer) who led the 9/11 staff’s inquiry, said “I was shocked at how different the truth was from the way it was described …. The tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public for two years…. This is not spin. This is not true.”
http://beyondleftright.com/top ... ay-qofficial-storyq-a-lie
Did the 'plane' that hit the pentagon actually only hit the audit dept that had found the 2.3 trillion missing ?
"The impact area included both the Navy operations center and the office complex of the National Guard and Army Reserve. It was also the end of the fiscal year and important budget information was in the damaged area." -Arlington County After-Action Report
"Most of those killed in the office, called Resource Services Washington, were civilian accountants, bookkeepers and budget analysts. They were at their desks when American Airlines Flight 77 struck." - South Coast Today/Pittsburgh Post-Gazette (12/20/01)
One Army office in the Pentagon lost 34 of its 65 employees in the attack. Most of those killed in the office, called Resource Services Washington, were civilian accountants, bookkeepers and budget analysts. They were at their desks when American Airlines Flight 77 struck.
"One Army office in the Pentagon lost 34 of its 65 employees in the attack. Most of those killed in the office, called Resource Services Washington, were civilian accountants, bookkeepers and budget analysts. They were at their desks when American Airlines Flight 77 struck." It seems to be the only department which re-entered the building after renovation.
And this money had been reported missing ( or unaccounted for ) much earlier than 8/11, it just so happened that it was made very public on 8/11, and resolved by having much of the evidence destroyed on 9/11.
And, was there insider trading leading up to 9/11 ? Here's the SEC's reaction, again, public knowledge and uncontested.....
Shortly after the attack the SEC circulated a list of stocks to securities firms around the world seeking information. 16 A widely circulated article states that the stocks flagged by the SEC included those of the following corporations: American Airlines, United Airlines, Continental Airlines, Northwest Airlines, Southwest Airlines, US Airways airlines, Martin, Boeing, Lockheed Martin Corp., AIG, American Express Corp, American International Group, AMR Corporation, AXA SA, Bank of America Corp, Bank of New York Corp, Bank One Corp, Cigna Group, CNA Financial, Carnival Corp, Chubb Group, John Hancock Financial Services, Hercules Inc., L-3 Communications Holdings, Inc., LTV Corporation, Marsh & McLennan Cos. Inc., MetLife, Progressive Corp., General Motors, Raytheon, W.R. Grace, Royal Caribbean Cruises, Ltd., Lone Star Technologies, American Express, the Citigroup Inc., Royal & Sun Alliance, Lehman Brothers Holdings, Inc., Vornado Reality Trust, Morgan Stanley, Dean Witter & Co., XL Capital Ltd., and Bear Stearns.
An October 19 article in the San Francisco Chronicle reported that the SEC, after a period of silence, had undertaken the unprecedented action of deputizing hundreds of private officials in its investigation:
The proposed system, which would go into effect immediately, effectively deputizes hundreds, if not thousands, of key players in the private sector.
An analysis of the press reports on the subject of apparent insider trading related to the attack shows a trend, with early reports highlighting the anomalies, and later reports excusing them. In his book Crossing the Rubicon Michael C. Ruppert illustrates this point by first excerpting a number of reports published shortly after the attack:
A jump in UAL (United Airlines) put options 90 times (not 90 percent) above normal between September 6 and September 10, and 285 times higher than average on the Thursday before the attack.
-- CBS News, September 26
A jump in American Airlines put options 60 times (not 60 percent) above normal on the day before the attacks.
-- CBS News, September 26
No similar trading occurred on any other airlines
-- Bloomberg Business Report, the Institute for Counterterrorism (ICT), Herzliyya, Israel [citing data from the CBOE] 3
Morgan Stanley saw, between September 7 and September 10, an increase of 27 times (not 27 percent) in the purchase of put options on its shares. 4
Merrill-Lynch saw a jump of more than 12 times the normal level of put options in the four trading days before the attacks. 5
And, as expected, that's all fine, nothing to see here, please ignore the above.
Here's the official explination.
Ruppert then illustrates an apparent attempt to bury the story by explaining it away as nothing unusual. A September 30 New York Times article claims that "benign explanations are turning up" in the SEC's investigation. 20 The article blames the activity in put options, which it doesn't quantify, on "market pessimism," but fails to explain why the price of the stocks in the airlines doesn't reflect the same market pessimism.
The fact that $2.5 million of the put options remained unclaimed is not explained at all by market pessimism
I'm sure that further digging will provide even more completely innocent explinations for the above actual trading, the NIST report on WTC 7 gives a number of easy ways to provide a report that most of you will be happy with.
Even if it works by actually ignoring facts.
And have over 2000 professionals questioned the NIST report on WTC 7 ? Well, with this you can even download who they are, all actual professionals who believe this report is untrue and unscientific.
More than 2,000 architects and engineers have now signed the AE911 Truth petition to Congress calling for a new, independent investigation into the World Trade Center attacks on 9/11.
AE911Truth founder and international speaker Richard Gage, AIA, was the first signer of the AE911 Truth petition to Congress, which now has the signatures of over 2,000 architects and engineers and 17,000 others
By recently adding their names and reputations to the petition, the professionals who pushed us past the 2,000 mark in August bolster the foundation of credibility and scientific knowledge on which the AE911Truth effort is built. You can now download the full petition signer list.
So, basic common sense suggests that there are only 2 ways that WTC7 managed to collapse the way it did, please check the many video's to observe for yourself the way it collapsed in freefall into it's own footprint.
1; the NIST reports solution, which is questioned by many professionals, and is the first, and to date, the only time ever that such a building constructed in this manner has ever collapsed like this. Or in fact, collapsed at all in even a faintly similar manner.
2; A controlled demolition, of which there are a large number of video's posted online showing identically constructed buildings collapsing in exactly this manner.
So, how did the NIST deal with this question ?
The team said that the smallest blast event capable of crippling the critical column would have produced a "sound level of 130 to 140 decibels at a distance of half a mile," yet no noise this loud was reported by witnesses or recorded on videos. http://www.nist.gov/public_affairs/releases/wtc-082108.cfm
Let's try looking at reality, eyewitness reports AT THE TIME, live footage, firefighter reports etc, make your own mind up. You can hear explosions online in these reports. Firefighters, people trapped all report explosions.