boohoo people are just ignoring me like always :weeping:

Quote from Krane :

A prob with the new track screen & finnish lang:

Same with polish.
Looks like the game has problems when weather name consists of more than word.
In such case it displays also text from next button in the current button.

EDIT
Changed spaces into floors and the same. Scawen was right two posts before.

ohhhhhhhhhhhhh:bowdown:

This patch u17 is beautiful, I love it :headbang:

should track names be translated or should'nt?

I think track names should not be translated, so it's a "name". If we translate a name, no body will recognize a track when talking/reading people in other languages.

Loving the new patch scawen, as a side note dunno if this is a stupid comment or not but when you use the user camera.. you lose movement on Force Feedback

I don't think you've ever had FFB in user camera.

fantastic stuff, love the way the interface is being streamlined. One suggestion I have along these lines is to remove the exit confirmation once you click to exit LFS - it's pointless. Doesn't exactly take a long time to reload LFS if someone does click it by accident.

Hi Scawen,

1st. of all, nice job

In portuguese translations i have a problem. We speek "Dia Claro" ( Clear Day ), but, in translation say "Claro Dia". In other words, time of day and weather.
The same aplies in lenght of the track, ex "circuito 1.5 km" but is show 1.5 km circuit.

I think is complicated to resolve?


Sorry if I'm not clear enought.

Quote from Vagner :

Hi Scawen,

1st. of all, nice job

In portuguese translations i have a problem. We speek "Dia Claro" ( Clear Day ), but, in translation say "Claro Dia". In other words, time of day and weather.
The same aplies in lenght of the track, ex "circuito 1.5 km" but is show 1.5 km circuit.

I think is complicated to resolve?


Sorry if I'm not clear enought.

I think if I'm right Vagner is trying to say the translation needs the word order changed round from "Claro Dia" to "Dia Claro" as well as the circuit.

Vagner, your english was pretty good - well done :-) if you want to post a list of what you have found in an order like:

Game Text Actual Text

Claro Dia Dia Claro


This might make things a little easier for you and wouldnt make you struggle with english :-) *edit - i put spacing in there, forgetting its a forum - DOH!*

Looking in translation tab, the message is displayed:
3g_wth_* + 3g_dt_*

when in portuguese will be:
3g_dt_* + 3g_wth_*

In the pit stop is more complicated. Ex:
3g_capsxdam %s DAMAGE

When is NINOR or MAJOR is ok (PEQUENOS/GRANDES DANOS), but for FRONT, REAR, LEFT, RIGHT, etc, we need:
DAMAGE OF %s
or in portuguese:
DANOS DA FRENTE, TRASEIRA, ESQUERDA, DIREITA, etc.

Yes, portuguese is complicated.

The new track menu is very cool... but there is a really horrible Estonian translation with the patch because of me... Please include new version of Estonian translation in the new patch.

EDIT: Vagner, I see you're having big troubles with the pitstop, too .

1) where is 3a_hli_wron used? I wrote the same message as in 3a_wrngwcap, but LFS reports "line too long".

2) if you are going to use for any purpose "north", "south","east", "west" as nouns, please, make another string for "north" in "Aston North".

In many languages they'll be different words. You can't play with words like bricks in many synthetic languages, we can put them in any order and play with smaller bricks - prefixes, suffixes and terminations.

Scawen, are you going to make a changing weather? I know it will be in an incompatible patch, but I beg you, make changing temperature and continuous wind (not discrete as now).

wonder when the next big patch is comeing out ?

Well, I had problems similar to Vagner's: minor/major comes before the noun, adverbal modifier of place (left/right/front/rear) goes after. I minimized the bad style issue using "DAMAGE (%s)", so left/right/rear/front showed ok, "Damage (minor)" is a roundabout way, because literally "damage minor" looks bureaucratic. I've failed to find a sensible substitute that would be grammatically 100% correct and look like human speech (not robot).

Quote from detail :

1) where is 3a_hli_wron used?

In Hot Lap 3a_hli

Wow, scawen, I love the track list now, always wondered what the tracks looked like on the whole circuit.... Nice

Hi,
I decided to create seperate LFS installation just for this test purposes.
What to say Scawen.It couldnt be better .The reverse driving fix is excelent and the roll function is something I have been waiting for ages...Its almost like christams present in the hot summer.

I have some comment regarding Roll function. Whilest is possible to use this cool feature in SHIFT+U mode there is no chance to use it in View/Custom view mode.There are still just 2 posibilitis to roll the camera.Would be possible to add it there as well.I guess it shouldnt be big problem for you if you already get working roll in SHIFT+U mode.

Also is there possibility to roll the camera with some key combination?If not, what about to add it under mouse wheel?

I really like the new track selection mode.Looks more proffesional. I am just thinking where you would put another track...

Many thanks for this nice test update.

I really like the track selection menu. Very nice! Also, the roll in TV Cam view is absolutely exquisite, saves loads of time in post-production and it's easily adjustable. A reset button to the default TV view would be good so you can reset it quicker. But still, top patch!

That track selection screen is awesome! Hope it stays that way!

Quote from Tweaker :

I do get one strange thing though. I got a "Warning: Shadow error" message that popped up when playing Kyoto Ring GP Rev. I have shadows on and all, and there was no shadow present. Had to restart the game in order for things to come back to normal. It's wierd, it only happens when I am in the cockpit view or something, and then I change views to chase came or track cam. I get that error only in certain occassions, and I am not quite sure what causes it. If I save a replay of it, and load it up, it doesn't happen. It has something to do with changing my views... dunno

It happens if you are out of memory on the card. It would come up when you try to draw a shadow, having not drawn one for a while.

If you are using excessively large skies (e.g. 4096x4096 provide by Don - then that is probably the cause. You should never use a sky larger than 2048x2048, even if your graphics card has a lot of memory). The skies do not use compressed textures.

Quote from DEVIL 007 :

Also is there possibility to roll the camera with some key combination?If not, what about to add it under mouse wheel?

TV Cam and SHIFT+U mode : CTRL+left/right arrow keys.

In TV Cam, CTRL+left+right returns to zero roll.

Quote from Scawen :

If you are using excessively large skies (e.g. 4096x4096 provide by Don - then that is probably the cause. You should never use a sky larger than 2048x2048, even if your graphics card has a lot of memory). The skies do not use compressed textures.

#gulp#

U18 :

List of games screen allows sorting hosts by clicking column title

Language support :

- Added "DAMAGE TO %s" separate from "%s DAMAGE"
(e.g. "DAMAGE TO FRONT" and "MINOR DAMAGE"

- Noun / adjective order (tx_noun_adj) may be set to "an" or "na"
(e.g. Cloudy Day or Day Cloudy)

FIX : U17 weather buffer was too short, causing strange text to appear

http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=9869

Quote from Scawen :

TV Cam and SHIFT+U mode : CTRL+left/right arrow keys.
In TV Cam, CTRL+left+right returns to zero roll.

Quote from ORION :

Ctrl+arrow keys (left/right)
only in Shift-U mode of course

Thank you both...

Jesus...i have to wake up today finally.I have already threw eating utensils to my bin.

I hate camera rolling, especially in motion. If a picture is poor when straight, rolling adds nothing.

LFS rolling camera made me feel seasick. There must be a warning.