You may all think im a crazy ricer boy by the end of this post but i swear im not

Anyways, as some of you may or may not know it was my birthday tuesday, and i got a scooter a present. Now me and my friends have gone through what we could do to it to pimp it out, so far i could repsray it blue, get my brother to do me some better vinyls, i might get some LED's hooked up in certain parts around the biked which are connected to their own seperate switch.

But then one of my friends said as a joke "how about we put a touch screen laptop on it?" We all just laughed it off, but now i think about it, it could be doable, and able to look good as well. But then their are many other devices that i could use instead such as Smart phones, Pocket PC's, PDA's and then other Touchscreen prodcuts.

The plan is to build a sort of like stand thing onto somewhere on my bike, and then have whatever i choose be able to be attatched and detached from that stand so i can take it off when i get somewhere. This would be good so when in 2 months im going to college i could drive up on my moped with this device on my bike, park my bike up, take the device off, and then use it throughout the day at college before going back home.

Although the device needs to have a purpose besides just being there to look good... the main purpose of the device that i need is its able to have GPS and then im able to use it throughout the day for reminders and notes and calanders and contact details and any other such thing which would help me.

So far i only have this option, which i am not that keen on.

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iPod Touch + PosiMotion G-Fi

Advantages

• I already have an iPod Touch so i only need to pay for the PosiMotion.
  
• Possible to be a GPS naviagation device if coupled with the PosiMotion device.
  
• It is rather small so it wouldn't take up much space on my scooter.
  
• Has applications for notes, calanders and contact details.
  
• New 3.0 update means if i get bluetooth headphones then i can listen to music/comedy videos while i drive (I may not acctually do this but it's a benifit so its worth mentioning)
  
• Would be used the majority of the time as my iPod.
  
• Their are various Dyno/Speedo apps on the appstore which i could buy, which when used with the PosiMotion device could give me readouts of speeds (Replace speedo perhaps?)
  

Disadvantages:

• Unable to be a GPS navagational device on its own, needs PosiMotion device.
  
• Maximum HD size is only 32GB.
  
• Rather limited in what you can do with it compared to other devices.
  
• I'll need to switch the PosiMotion device on and off whenever i want to use it.
  

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If i was to do this option then it would be rather easy to get running as im comfertable using iPod Touches. I could just build a small stand onto my bike, put the PosiMotion device somewhere hidden but easy to get to for when it needs recharging. And then when im at college it's small enough to have comfertably in my pocket and be able to use it whenever i need to write something in.

If i was to get something like a touch screen netbook then id be able to do much more then what i could do on my ipod touch, as it would be running a windows OS and their are software for quite alot of things, and then the hardware to go with it.

If you know of any Pocket PC's Or PDA's or small touchscreen netbooks which are good as i really have no clue what is good or not in this field then please post links so i can go through them.

Any ideas at all would be great, not just a "stop trying to rice up your bike". If i find a point in this other then itd look cool then im going to talk to a few people about building it in, if i find its not feasable then i wont.[QUOTE]

MP3Car.com will be your saviour of all CarPC related projects.

Remember it'll need to be waterproofed.

All the "take it away when you need it" solutions i've seen have either taken up a LOT of space, or were something small such as an iPhone / iPod Touch in the first place.

I'll be hoenst - pimp it as much as you like but it really isn't gonna be worth it.

Saying that, i'm trying to buy an eee to put in my car so maybe I shouldn't be giving this advice!

Quote from Jakg :

MP3Car.com will be your saviour of all CarPC related projects.

Remember it'll need to be waterproofed.

All the "take it away when you need it" solutions i've seen have either taken up a LOT of space, or were something small such as an iPhone / iPod Touch in the first place.

I'll be hoenst - pimp it as much as you like but it really isn't gonna be worth it.

Saying that, i'm trying to buy an eee to put in my car so maybe I shouldn't be giving this advice!

Ahah, they do do bikes as well though?
Yeah the waterproofing bit will be fine, a friend of mine has offered to build me a waterproof display cover thing with the stand.

Yeah i would rather it didnt take up much space which is why im not that keen on something big like a netbook. So an iPod Touch would be a reasonable thing to do it with but i dont like the limit on what you could do, where as with something like a pocketPC (From what ive read pocketPC's run off a version of windows built for small devices) would take up just as little an ammount of space as an iPod Touch but i would most likely be able to do more with it.

And HAH, well now you've said that i wont listen to the bit about it not being worth it.

But seriously, i know it sort of wont be worth it besides as something to show off, but if i dont have to like cut out a part of the bike to put it in, if its just on like a stand which has been built on the top then its worth a go to see if it works well.

Where would you mount it? Having been on a Speedfight I couldn't see much space to put anything like that tbh - on my old bike there might of been space, though.

Windows Mobile is more compatible, and yes you could TomTom or similar - but it's clunky as hell and I'm not sure what use it actually is in a School environment (and this is speaking as someone who's had 2!). Netbook is obviously better but theres nowhere to put it.

Thread you might find useful - http://www.mp3car.com/vbulleti ... e-yet-made-bikeputer.html





My build is to replace my stereo (which may or may not happen - I could get an amp or keep using my headunit), run a front and back camera to record the crazy things that seem to happen to me and to help me reverse - I could run a navigation system, but it's in an awkward position. I'd also like to hook it up to my engine - but I can't see a point other than ePeen and i'd rather have something transferable between cars.

It depends on the size of what i get, currently only something which is small such as an ipod would go well on it, as i could (i think) just about put it above where my speedo is, anything bigger and im not sure where id put it, id have to put it further down near where my knee's would be which wouldnt really be ideal.

Exactly, with windows mobile im pretty sure if i wanted i could somehow set a way up to be able to control my lights from the screen, or have it display my speed/revs but with an iTouch its more limited, i dont think id be able to do the majority of that.

Yeah a tom tom itself isnt good imo, its big and its only good for being used as a GPS nothing else. Plus its kinda crap to use a tom tom while you walk around.

Thanks for the thread link but it wasnt perticulerly usefull, thats more an entire computer built into a bike, and its also a much larger bike, but something in that thread has made me think that perhaps there would be a way to get it so that the charger for whatever device i could get would work from my bike battery, i.e the charger for my ipod touch connects to my battery so i can charge the ipod whilst its on the bike, or perhaps charge the PosiMotion while i drive.

And a front/rear camera would be a rather usefull thing to have on the car. But i dont get what you mean by the navigation system being in an awkward place? How can it be in an awkward place? Yeah connecting it to your engine would make it rather hard to just transfer to another car.
What about getting some kind of accelerometer somewhere? Which will help tell you how many g's your pulling when you turn haha. Nah thats still rather pointless.

In my car the stereo is quite low down - to focus much attention on it while driving.

Accelerometer = Expensive, same as the engine management cable - I'm doing this supercheap:

Second hand eee - £50 (or less),
Touch Screen - £25,
USB Sound Card - £25 (not sure if want),
2x Webcams - £6 ish.

Thats pretty much it...

do you have a picture of the bike? it would be useful, to see how big the mount could be and where to place it

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do you have a picture of the bike? It would be useful, to see how big the mount could be and where to place it

http://www.lfsforum.net/attach ... mp;stc=1&d=1246399626

That picture doesn't help much, I'll agree - but if you know your bikes you could find something...

I dont understand how your stereo being low down affects your gps? Unless your planning on having the gps displayed on the stereo or something?

And ahah, fair enough, i guess an accelerometer would cast rather alot.

Anyways here are some pictures which would have been smart to include in the first post.



The two possible choices are above the clocks but itd have to be at a rather verticle angle, or underneath the clocks at the same angle as everything else.

What do you think?


Also this is just something im slightly thinking about which im not sure if itd work or not so id just like to know.
If i bought something likethis would it be possible to take it apart and change the mains plug so its connected to my bikes battery? Because i know of where i could put the speakers and the subwoofer on it.
Im just thinking about having this on so when we stop somewhere or are just out with our bikes near us i can play some music to keep everyone happy.
The only thing im worried about is that my bike battery may not be able to handle running the demolished iPig.

If I use my stereo as a GPS screen then it'll be damn near impossible to look at it and take in the info without crashing.

You can wire up the iPig, but you'll need an inverter of some kind.

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If I use my stereo as a GPS screen then it'll be damn near impossible to look at it and take in the info without crashing.

You can wire up the iPig, but you'll need an inverter of some kind.

Ahah, is there no way to move the stereo further up? Normally you can swap it with something else such as like air con dials ect?

And ahah although i am rather worried about the battery not having enough power to power the ipig. As in that thread you linked me to someone said that bike batterys just arent designed for things such as stereos ect.

Nah theres no point cutting the dash around on a car I don't plan on keeping forever - I want everything I do to be transferable.

You crazy ricer!!
Sorry i could not help myslelf it was a joke.

But thats a realy nice scooter

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Nah theres no point cutting the dash around on a car I don't plan on keeping forever - I want everything I do to be transferable.

Noo i mean, im sure it is just interchangable? You can swap them around without cutting anything up, im sure theres a way you could take it all out to swap things around.

Quote from Chrisuu01 :

You crazy ricer!!
Sorry i could not help myslelf it was a joke.

But thats a realy nice scooter

Haha, i have got a tiny bit of ricer in me :P but not enough to do something ricerish without a perfectly good reason.

And thank you

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Noo i mean, im sure it is just interchangable? You can swap them around without cutting anything up, im sure theres a way you could take it all out to swap things around.

Really no - plus once I take it out it won't go back in as my car is really really badly designed.

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Really no - plus once I take it out it won't go back in as my car is really really badly designed.

Ahah damnit, what about if the screen is thin enough you could put it in your sun visor thing?

thats equally dangerous to look at :P

So you want to change the stock speedo with a portable computer thingy with internet option?

IMO this is bad idea youl be playing NFS while driving and crash.

But serioulsy if your realy into electric circuits you could do it but only if you realy do.
Trust me I tied to get my dad a baging stereo for his tunez and i failed so badly.
At leats the stereo went fine but making th board computer work sust made me angry at the dammed thing.

You know sombuddy that can wire things up pretty good in chance you mess up its wise to ask him just in case you mes up

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thats equally dangerous to look at :P

Hmm, thats a good point. I should have thought about that before i said that .

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So you want to change the stock speedo with a portable computer thingy with internet option?

IMO this is bad idea youl be playing NFS while driving and crash.

But serioulsy if your realy into electric circuits you could do it but only if you realy do.
Trust me I tied to get my dad a baging stereo for his tunez and i failed so badly.
At leats the stereo went fine but making th board computer work sust made me angry at the dammed thing.

You know sombuddy that can wire things up pretty good in chance you mess up its wise to ask him just in case you mes up

No no no, i dont plan on changing the stock speedo with anything, thats too much work and would leave the bike unesellable after.
I've now decided im just going to build some sort of thing underneath the speedos for the ipod, then find somewhere to put the PosiMotion device, then hopefully find where to put the two speakers from the iPig (The subwoofer will go underneath the chair).

The hardest bit i think will be connected the speakers/PosiMotion charger/iPod charger to the bike battery.

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thats equally dangerous to look at :P

Mount a 7" Touchscreen to the top of the dash where you can see it If you don't want to drill into the dash, you could find an alternative way to mount it onto the dash.

I take it you haven't driven a car yet, have you?

I can just about deal with a satnav - any 7" object in the way of my windscreen is bad enough, let alone a flashy one that actively draws my attention away.

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I take it you haven't driven a car yet, have you?

I can just about deal with a satnav - any 7" object in the way of my windscreen is bad enough, let alone a flashy one that actively draws my attention away.

I know a few people who have 7" screens in their cars as it is part of their headunits, these also have satnav on and it doesn't cause them any problems. You mount it in a position where you can see the road and the screen at the same time.

Hmm i have a question? Does anyone know how i can find out how much power is coming from my bikes battery?
So i can then work out how much energy would be used by the iPig and then see if my battery would be good enough to power it.

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Hmm i have a question? Does anyone know how i can find out how much power is coming from my bikes battery?
So i can then work out how much energy would be used by the iPig and then see if my battery would be good enough to power it.

There will be an alternator in the mix aswell I'd guess, so with said test you might want to run the engine aswell.

Infact saying that, do scooters even have alternators? haha

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There will be an alternator in the mix aswell I'd guess, so with said test you might want to run the engine aswell.

Infact saying that, do scooters even have alternators? haha

An alternator being the thing which charges my battery when the engine is running?

Well i think mine does as currently when i have the bike just on the clock light tends to flutter a bit, and then as soon as i start driving the clock light stops fluttering and all the rest of the lights brighten.