I downloaded the demo on 360 a week or so ago. Was alright, but not amazing. I preferred the feel of Ace Combat 6.

Commanche ain't a bad game at all, tested it some years ago and had some great hours of playtime with it.

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If you're looking for realism in a combat sim, check out:

- Lock On (modern jets)
- IL2 (WWII props)
- Black Shark (helos)

IL2 probably has the best pick-up-and-play factor. The others tend to get pretty involved with all the various cockpit systems.

Huh ? Lock On ?....so real that you can crash into the ground at several hundred mile an hour, rip both wings off and carry on as though nothing had happened http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABHDGUZyWkE

Maybe Falcon 4 should replace it in your list

That's just a glitch. I am sure if you look hard enough, you'll find similar bugs in Falcon 4 (which was awesome, admittedly)

The Basic/Expert control thingy is the same like in the old N64s Aero Fighters Assault, the only jetfighter game i know for that console (and in contrary to all test and magazins I liked it ).

I'm quite surprised that H.A.W.X runs fine on my old single core non SLI system, I may buy it. And the controls or acceptable, I use a Logitech Gamepad

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BTW I was refering to Commanche 1, 2 and 3. 4 was a fail.

I have (or had, if I could find the CDs on the box) Commanche 1, 2 and 3... I bought 4 too, and tried installing it but somehow it just didn't run on my computer (didn't even open up like a black screen or anything) so I trade it with another game on the store.

@ ColeusRattus : I never managed to play Falcon 4 when it was released... Then recently I installed it on my computer again but I couldn't play at all: framerate was too high. Even if I quickly clicked [>] (right arrow) my plane would flip 3 or more times Is there a way to limit framerate?


Well, back on topic: I downloaded and tried Tom Clancy's HAWX... well, it surely isn't a simulator at all, it's a complete arcade and I think that's what it was supposed to be (nobody trying to make a sim could ever make physics like those on HAWX it would be a huge and epic FAIL). The game is fun though, I can recognize the city, the places and everything around perfectly (the demo takes place on Brazil - Rio de Janeiro). I think the game is fun and has got good graphics, even though it's a arcade. I wouldn't purchase it, though.

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LOMAC ftw!!


Haven't tried HAWX, i decided i didn't want to when i saw the plane in the advert do a backflip, stop in mid air as it finished it, then hit the afterburner and fly off again...

That is actually a real move. It is called the cobra and IIRC the SU-37 is the only plane which can do it.

^ Mig-29 can as well

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That is actually a real move. It is called the cobra and IIRC the SU-37 is the only plane which can do it.

How about the extremely small radius "u-turn" executed in less than 1 sec that generates around 100 instantaneous g's in the Maneuvers Trailer? The plane didn't even lose much speed... Search that in youtube... its uber-unrealistic.

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How about the extremely small radius "u-turn" executed in less than 1 sec that generates around 100 instantaneous g's in the Maneuvers Trailer? The plane didn't even lose much speed... Search that in youtube... its uber-unrealistic.

This is in-game really, you can do absolutely the same thing when playing . It even seems like there's no air already because you can turn the plane wherever you want to without any resistance, it's called "drift" (or "draft", I don't remember now) on the tutorial Welcome to Tom Clancy's HAWX

It's possible to make like a 180° turn while on this mode, 'stop' the plane and then go on the opposite direction. Or, if you don't want to change your direction, you can make a double backflip in the air, without any air resistance at almost no speed, and then just press "forward" to keep going wherever you were going at the same speed

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This is in-game really, you can do absolutely the same thing when playing . It even seems like there's no air already because you can turn the plane wherever you want to without any resistance, it's called "drift" (or "draft", I don't remember now) on the tutorial

They called it a drift. Very inappropriate term for an aircraft maneuver. High-alpha (high-angle of attack) sounds way better.

I think these planes are Star Wars crafts disguised in the modern jet fighter bodywork...

these manouvers are possible, at least in the new thrust vectoring modells like the SU-34. But no pilot would survive it, 10g+ I was on the ILA in Berlin two times, unbelievable how these jets can fly

physics allow some pretty silly stuff when thrust materials and pilots arent limiting factors to performance
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMR7qU9FVEQ