Quote from TheNoobisonFire :

OK sir. let me ask you this: What person of the Live For Speed Community would by a Oculus Rift for LFS, than a visually enhanced mid-tier Monitor? Like I said..."I feel the rift update is irrelevant"

The Rift support primarily attracts new users to LFS, not the other way around. If you really need to ask why someone would get a Rift over a standard single monitor for simulators, then it speaks volumes how clueless you really are about this topic. The only reason you find it irrelevant, is because you haven't experienced VR.

Quote from TheNoobisonFire :

Explanation (Because I knew it was coming):Nobody would buy a Rift for LFS in their right mind. Sure, if you owned a rift, than I would see if you wanted to use it towards LFS. But common sense would tell you if a small community would use a Rift on LFS, why would you make this huge update for it? That's like Buying a Steam game for $9.99 but you can get the Steam game PLUS 5 DLC's for $14.99 It really doesn't make sense.

You're being nonsensical. Why are you so stuck on thinking someone would be buying a HMD only to use it with LFS? That's like arguing against LFS having TrackIR support, because you think people would be buying a TIR only to be used with LFS.

VR is all about different games and experiences, simulators just happen to be a match made in heaven for it.

First your argument is that it costs too much, now this. The Rift support is already implemented and programmed in LFS, it's pretty pointless to keep yammering on about it with changing strawman arguments.

Looks very fun. I really miss my S13...

Went back to W7 aswell, atleast for now. It still feels the most "home"-like and gets things done in the easiest and fastest way for me.

Quote from Scawen :

I want to add dynamic reflections on the cars because it looks nice when the car is near high objects, trees, buildings, under bridges and so on. This depends on drawing an reflected image of the world as seen from each car.

Quote from Scawen :

It's tempting to dive right into a totally new shadow system that gives shadows to all objects in the world. That is something I want to do.

Great, now I'm nursing a semi just by reading that and imagining the outcome.

Quote from TheNoobisonFire :

Honestly, I feel the rift update is Irrelevant. Mainly due to hardly anyone having enough money to buy one in the first place.

I've never understood that argument on this forum. Current Rift devkit costs the same as a standard mid-tier monitor, mass produced consumer version will be even cheaper.

Getting the Rift support done and honed now is smart, especially as LFS is the benchmark of VR implementations done right.

Yes it does, and I use them for playback control. The K70 volume roll only affects the overall windows volume slider.

Aaaanyway, it would all be much easier, if mouse over taskbar icon would just activate the roll function for that program. Maybe we'll see that by the time Windows 20 comes out.

I do have a volume roll on my Corsair K70, but that's not enough when separate music volume is required.

Quote from Victor :

Window focus is where you mouse is (a window doesn't have to be active in order for mouse wheel to work). OSX users will be familiar with it already.

Yeah, that's nice. However I do wish that pointing the mouse over a taskbar icon would make the mouse wheel operate that program.

For example, on W7 I just selected Winamp from my taskbar, then scrolled the mousewheel to control volume.

Now on W10 I have to first select Winamp from taskbar to bring it up from backround, then move my mouse cursor over the actual program for volume control to work.

Updated to H6 and fullscreen v-sync now works like it should on wine/OSX.

One good reason to go with W10... low-level GPU performance gains.

http://hexus.net/tech/news/graphics/85385-dx12-unreal-engine-4-elemental-demo-download-available/

That demo ran something like low 40 FPS for me on W7, now it's silk smooth 60 FPS with v-sync, 80-100 FPS when unlimited. Mind boggling difference.

Can't wait for games to start make use of DX12 performance.

Quote from dawesdust_12 :

OS X is weird as everything is "V-Sync". I'm not sure if games override it either.

The window manager vsync's everything by default. You can disable it on a per-boot basis. The feature in Quartz is "BeamSync".

Shouldn't that limit LFS to 60 FPS though? If I leave v-sync off in LFS, but leave frame limiter on @ 100 FPS, that's exactly what I get.

But if I turn v-sync on in LFS, the framerate starts bouncing between 120-150 FPS.

Nah, fuel consumption is already bad enough when touring thanks to no fairings, screaming engine wouldn't help that.

That's another thing I really want with a supersport, a bit of wind cover. My friends can just crouch down on their supersports when we're touring if the wind gets bad, and I'm sitting upright getting thrown around.

Mostly yes.

Just starting to find the lack of bottom and mid-range torque on 600cc a bit annoying. A crossplane R1 would be another contender to the 'Blade.

Still smooth sailing with the Hornet... clocked a bit over 3100 kilometers so far this summer and just did the first oil/filter change.




Got a really bad desire for a 1000cc supersports though, feeling around for a Repsol 06-07 Fireblade near my area.

Boots/Sidi Apex

Gloves/FIVE Stunt

4096 brings very diminishing returns, 2048 is the best compromise of size and quality.

V-sync doesn't seem to be working on wine, can anyone else confirm? Testing H5 with OSX 10.11 and if I switch v-sync on, LFS still runs at 100 FPS.

TBH I'm fine with W10 so far. Then again, I had tried the technical previews every now and then, so I knew what to expect.

W8/8.1 was just a complete mess, with W10 it seems like Microsoft is slowly getting an idea what a desktop OS was supposed to be about. Under the hood performance improvements, DX12 with low level GPU access, return of the start menu... these are all good things.

Does it still have some weird schizophrenic Metro'ness showing here and there? Sure, but atleast now you aren't forced to interact with those Metro elements in full screen now. That said, I also installed it on my Linx tablet, and it's actually a better tablet OS than 8/8.1 aswell.

The privacy/data snooping stuff is the only thing that really bothers me about W10. All of that should be opt-out, and off by default. To get rid of some of it, this Reddit post is pretty helpful, as well as this blog post.

Quote from MandulAA :

I agree, more question marks in-game would be great, especially for new users - but adding more question marks needs more translation work as every help screen needs to be translated and some languages still have periodically inactive translators.

It would still be better to atleast have them in english, atleast the new explanation lines would get eventually translated. Once S3 is released, I'm guessing many of the old translators will become more active again.

Options in the Misc menu definitely need a bit more explanation about what the frame/sleep settings do, users who don't bother going on Google or Wikipedia to look them up propably don't have the slightest clue what they're toggling.

Edit: Oh yeah, I think the v-sync toggle could be universal for both fullscreen and windowed mode, if it's possible to implement? Atleast now it's impossible to have v-sync on when running in a window. Also while on the subject of windows, I don't think LFS does borderless windowed fullscreen natively yet?

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Quote from Flame CZE :

I think it would be helpful to add these explanations to the LFSManual Options page, too.

To be honest, I think a native implementation would be more useful. LFS would really benefit from having more of those little ? icons/explanations on all the technical graphics settings.

The new frame timing display is nice though, I'm just not certain how to exactly read it.

Quote from Neilser :

Input lag: surely this isn't noticeable with vsync on, even at only 60Hz refresh?

It's easily noticeable, atleast on FFB wheels.

Not to mention VR headsets.

Quote from Scawen :

Is there a standard safe setting used by other games, limiting frame rate by default in some way?

I would be interested to hear from anyone who knows about G-sync and Freesync monitors and how they interact with the vertical sync option.

Usually it's just V-sync (sometimes with an option for pre-rendered frames) or a manual framerate limiter to avoid V-sync induced input lag.

Unfortunately I don't have a G-sync/Freesync monitor yet, so I can't help with that.

Quote from Scawen :

Maybe the frame rate should be limited by default?

That sounds good, I very rarely let any game go fully berserk on my GPU without some kind of framerate limiter to save my ears.

Are you thinking about doing it by V-sync or manual framerate limiter by default? I was wondering how the 144Hz G-sync/Freesync monitors would behave.

Paid mods are fine, but they must be high quality and even then, reasonably priced.

Think commercial FSX or X-Plane add-ons for example. Those things have cost the mod developers hundreds of hours of work and research, as a result the details on some of them are just stunning. Those are the kind of mods I gladly pay money for.

Horse testicles or animated fishing in Skyrim however...

If online is your thing, only stick with crew and friend sessions and avoid public online like the bubonic plague that it is.

It's not really better on consoles either to be honest, the hackers from PC are just replaced with sexually frustrated (pre)teenagers.