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george_tsiros
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switch over to RPGs and FPSs

seriously now, are you sure your 9800 is not burning?

run furmark and test your 9800.
george_tsiros
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why does everyone still call it "copy protection".

it doesn't protect a copy.

it's copy prevention... and not even that, actually.

you might say that i am being pedantic, but giving the proper name to things is important for thinking about it in the proper terms.
george_tsiros
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notice how the chick has this indifferent look in her eyes, like she doesn't actually feel any sad that her boyfriend is leaving?
george_tsiros
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i really did not want to comment anything earlier, 'cause our resident "pc engineer" (first time in 20+ years over a keyboard that i heard such a phrase*) would create another essay explaining how i am wrong and pouting that i try to make of him less than what he is. And also throw shit around that i am 'insulting'.

yes. keep your data somewhere save, download the drivers for your network card (just in case the xp cd doesn't have them already) and go on.

this whole deal would've ended TWO WEEKS ago if you just went ahead and followed thebangerboy's suggestion.

was it worth it?

if you still want to test stuff... (before, or after, reinstalling) try superpi and furmark to stress test your cpu and gpu.
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george_tsiros
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the company that printed those had the printer set to 'economy' and 16dpi
george_tsiros
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as a mod and, moreover, a native english speaker, you should be more careful o_O

please

think of the users... !
george_tsiros
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I almost fell for it.
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george_tsiros
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the clock is wrong
george_tsiros
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Quote from danthebangerboy :it is an AGP card as opposed to PCI-e.

ah. you could get the appropriate drivers then from that site :>

Quote from danthebangerboy :omega drivers

ah. i see your problem.
Guide for affordable yet capable gaming computer
george_tsiros
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This is all typed in a hurry, i am not a native english speaker so i will translate what i think in greek on the fly to english and type it out.

Ok here's the thing. initialy incomplete so i can see what people have to say about it and change the way i do it, before i go too far and it gets difficult to improve.

there have been quite the lot of questions about a cheap gaming pc so instead of answering every single post about this every time i will try to make a nifty list which shows what you can start with and where to go from there.

since i am more familiar with DAAMiT (amd/ati, i have used intelidia for quite some time) i will deal with this.

also since this will be a list that i will hopefully update once in a while, i will not deal with previous-gen stuff (am2/ddr2)
i know i will break the hearts of lots of people... but... yeah ok.

here goes, from memory (i will add specifics later)

starting point


CPU : phenom II x2

RAM : 1x1GB ddr3 nothing particularly fancy

MOBO : good quality but nothing fancy. gigabyte/asus/msi

GPU : 3450 (i did say we start cheap)

PSU : 400W PSU, a corsair perhaps.

HDD : 160GB sataII WD/seagate

CASE : must fit ATX mobo. not less than about 30GBP/50EUR/50USD

This pc costs about 300GBP, give or take, ignoring bargains etc.

now, the bigger the budget, you can change the components as you see in this list, going down.



CPU GPU RAM PSU
25 4650
75 4770
100 1X2GB
150 4850 ~500W
200 ph2 X3 2X2GB
250 4870 ~600W
300 ph2 X4
350 4890


short explanation for this table.

if you will spend more money than what the starting point costs, depending on how much more you will be spending, you go down 'steps' in the table. the prices are, of course, rough estimates. Also, the components are also rough estimates. For example, there are 66euro phenomII X2s and there are 100euro ones. There are 150euro X4s and there are 250euro ones. there are 100euro 4850s and there are 150euro ones. The reason for that is that one shop might not have the x2 245 but might have the 250 one... so you buy the 250 one and then spend a bit less on... say the HDD. or something else anyway. Another reason is that someone might prefer a bigger HDD. or a second HDD.

I could've gone into detail and start listing stuff based on the minutae we're interested (amperage on rails etcetc) but i chose to have a little more leeway rather than building down to a price. I could've actually gone and chosen components based on measurements. for instance 65W 245 x2, 50W 4650, 50W for mobo and ram, 50W for HDDs etc, you can make do, struggling, with a 300W psu. That's what i do, as a crazy guy... but for the sake of the wellbeing of the sanity of others, i choose to suggest a bit more, rather than dancing on the limits.

so if you have 400 to spend, go for the cheapest machine i suggested. If you have 500, you go to the row labeled '100' and see that i suggest the 4770 (instead of the admitedly wimpy 3650) and a single stick of 2GB ddr3, instead of a single stick of 1GB. the reason for that is that you can add another stick a bit later. Also, remember that when you reach 650euro+ you can choose a mobo with SLI (crossfire) and upgrade your machine with another 4870, for instance. that's why i suggested a case that can fit an ATX as mATX mobos with sli/crossfire are not too many. if someone thinks he will stick with that machine and never upgrade it, then ok... the cheapest capable machine that can do that right now which also looks kinda cool is: sharkoon rush case, the cheapest corsair psu, a mATX mobo with amd chipset, two sticks of 1GB DDR2, a 4850, a dvd and a western digital sata 120/160GB. there ya go. 400 euros.)

i could've gone with a ddr2 machine, but after a while, if you want to add more mem (the most usual upgrade, next to gpu) finding ddr2 will be a bit more tough than ddr3. and pricier. go check out ddr1 prices.

in the end, this list is only for amd/ati, for this month, from me and based on my knowledge and preferences. there are gazzilion others like it and much better anywhere.

that's about it, for now.
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george_tsiros
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if you care a lot for upgradeability, you're in the red.

if you don't, you can get a decent machine.

mobo with ddr2 socket, a 45-65W dualcore amd, a 1GB stick (for starting), a 4830/4770, a 120GB hdd, a 400W psu and a $30 case.
george_tsiros
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glad to have been of help
george_tsiros
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what about the cables?

george_tsiros
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is this what you have?

1) have you thought of sticking a dualcore, some ram and a low profile card in it?

2) here's a nice piece of kit for 420GBP
  • XFX ATI Radeon HD 4850 "XXX Edition" 512MB £79.98
  • AMD Athlon II X2 Dual Core 250 3.00GHz (Socket AM3) £59.00
  • OCZ Platinum 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C7 1600MHz £57.99
  • Corsair VX 450W ATX Power Supply £54.99
  • Western Digital Caviar Blue 160GB SATA-II 8MB Cache £29.99
  • Asus TA-861 Midi-ATX Case - Black/Silver (No PSU) £43.98
george_tsiros
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do you have a computer now?
george_tsiros
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A decent gaming for under 400GBP, coming right up!

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/ ... mp;catid=1445&subcat=

if you say that you care a lot for upgradeability, i will try and see if i can make an AM3/DDR3 one
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george_tsiros
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i'd say your mipmap bias values are all whacked out.

set all the graphics options in LFS to their default values (dunno how exactly you can do that, but there is some kind of option... del-click? shift-click? sorry)

get the latest supported catalysts from ati (here's a quick link for you for 32bit xp)

and set everything to default, and all fancy options off.

see if that fixes your problem.

can't think of anything else right now... you know your system you might have some tweaking utilities that... do... stuff (rivat00ner, atit00l, ) and these things sometimes get in the way.
george_tsiros
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they are not bad. the episode where they show what had happened just before the start of the story was nice
george_tsiros
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when i had my danelectro fab tone (ridiculously high gain fuzz distortion) i could pick up radio taxi, clear as day.
george_tsiros
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Quote from batteryy :ive seen worse...

from me? awwww thanks
george_tsiros
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Quote from batteryy :god damn you scared me

sorry there's an animated version on teh intertubes, too
george_tsiros
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george_tsiros
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today, with google, it is almost impossible to **** up a computer build. you can search for information... specificiations... compatibility... connectors... problems, everything.

Quote :64bit vista

:bananadea
george_tsiros
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i was joking :P
george_tsiros
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fire defense...

...

firewall?
FGED GREDG RDFGDR GSFDG