Yes, sorry again... I did 2 changes in the same test and that is why I misunderstood the problem.

SS can be at least 1.5x without problem. The only thing that can not be activated is the FFR.

I need to play the game properly and I will test with higher SS and with LFS's resolution adjustments too before more posting

Thanks for your really good support

SOrry Scawen, I found the REAL problem, see the previous post

Yes, not a single problem with Steam games and iRacing at least.

Found the problem!!

The problem is the "FIXED FOVETEAD RENDERING", it can not be activated in LFS

Sorry for all this wasting time. Maybe you could warn pimax users somehow and let them know that we cannot use "FFR". It is a very good tool because it helps a lot with the FPS

Last edited by TRM.13, Sun, 3 Nov 2019 09:27.

Registration Name: Application
Source: Windows Error Reporting
Date: 02/11/2019 20:48:24
Event ID: 1001
Task Category: None
Level: Information
Keywords: Classic
User: Not available
Equipment: DESKTOP-8AA1RIM
Description:
Deposit with errors 1314093422181352660, type 1
Event Name: APPCRASH
Answer: Not Available
.Cab file id: 0

Problem signature:
P1: LFS.exe
P2: 0.0.0.0
P3: 5dbda5bf
P4: StackHash_90c9
P5: 0.0.0.0
P6: 00000000
P7: c0000005
P8: PCH_DB_FROM_ntdll + 0x0006AE8C
P9:
P10:

Attached files:
\\? \ C: \ ProgramData \ Microsoft \ Windows \ WER \ Temp \ WER6C07.tmp.dmp
\\? \ C: \ ProgramData \ Microsoft \ Windows \ WER \ Temp \ WER6D60.tmp.WERInternalMetadata.xml
\\? \ C: \ ProgramData \ Microsoft \ Windows \ WER \ Temp \ WER6D90.tmp.xml
\\? \ C: \ ProgramData \ Microsoft \ Windows \ WER \ Temp \ WER6D92.tmp.csv
\\? \ C: \ ProgramData \ Microsoft \ Windows \ WER \ Temp \ WER6DB2.tmp.txt

It is possible that these files are available here:
C: \ ProgramData \ Microsoft \ Windows \ WER \ ReportArchive \ AppCrash_LFS.exe_9a5287748b83a52d5f12c675c7b753b16141_d41fbd6c_5ee272ce

Analysis symbol:
New search for a solution: 0
Report ID: a469f8f3-c650-49aa-bcae-4b63c258f099
Report Status: 268435456
Deposit with hash algorithm: 76f02b03e50ee22c923c99014ecc04d4
.Cab file GUID: 0
Event XML:
<Event xmlns = "http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
<System>
<Provider Name = "Windows Error Reporting" />
<EventID Qualifiers = "0"> 1001 </EventID>
<Level> 4 </Level>
<Task> 0 </Task>
<Keywords> 0x80000000000000 </Keywords>
<TimeCreated SystemTime = "2019-11-02T19: 48: 24.427505800Z" />
<EventRecordID> 124550 </EventRecordID>
<Channel> Application </Channel>
<Computer> DESKTOP-8AA1RIM </Computer>
<Security />
</System>
<EventData>
<Data> 1314093422181352660 </Data>
<Data> 1 </Data>
<Data> APPCRASH </Data>
<Data> Not available </Data>
<Data> 0 </Data>
<Data> LFS.exe </Data>
<Data> 0.0.0.0 </Data>
<Data> 5dbda5bf </Data>
<Data> StackHash_90c9 </Data>
<Data> 0.0.0.0 </Data>
<Data> 00000000 </Data>
<Data> c0000005 </Data>
<Data> PCH_DB_FROM_ntdll + 0x0006AE8C </Data>
<Data>
</Data>
<Data>
</Data>
<Data>
\\? \ C: \ ProgramData \ Microsoft \ Windows \ WER \ Temp \ WER6C07.tmp.dmp
\\? \ C: \ ProgramData \ Microsoft \ Windows \ WER \ Temp \ WER6D60.tmp.WERInternalMetadata.xml
\\? \ C: \ ProgramData \ Microsoft \ Windows \ WER \ Temp \ WER6D90.tmp.xml
\\? \ C: \ ProgramData \ Microsoft \ Windows \ WER \ Temp \ WER6D92.tmp.csv
\\? \ C: \ ProgramData \ Microsoft \ Windows \ WER \ Temp \ WER6DB2.tmp.txt </Data>
<Data> C: \ ProgramData \ Microsoft \ Windows \ WER \ ReportArchive \ AppCrash_LFS.exe_9a5287748b83a52d5f12c675c7b753b16141_d41fbd6c_5ee272ce </Data>
<Data>
</Data>
<Data> 0 </Data>
<Data> a469f8f3-c650-49aa-bcae-4b63c258f099 </Data>
<Data> 268435456 </Data>
<Data> 76f02b03e50ee22c923c99014ecc04d4 </Data>
<Data> 0 </Data>
</EventData>
</Event>

A second error log found, maybe it helps:

"- System

- Provider

[Name] Windows Error Reporting

- EventID 1001

[Qualifiers] 0

Level 4

Task 0

Keywords 0x80000000000000

- TimeCreated

[SystemTime] 2019-11-02T19: 48: 24.427505800Z

EventRecordID 124550

Channel Application

Computer DESKTOP-8AA1RIM

Security


- EventData

1314093422181352660
one
APPCRASH
Not available
0
LFS.exe
0.0.0.0
5dbda5bf
StackHash_90c9
0.0.0.0
00000000
c0000005
PCH_DB_FROM_ntdll + 0x0006AE8C


\\? \ C: \ ProgramData \ Microsoft \ Windows \ WER \ Temp \ WER6C07.tmp.dmp \\? \ C: \ ProgramData \ Microsoft \ Windows \ WER \ Temp \ WER6D60.tmp.WERInternalMetadata.xml \\? \ C: \ ProgramData \ Microsoft \ Windows \ WER \ Temp \ WER6D90.tmp.xml \\? \ C: \ ProgramData \ Microsoft \ Windows \ WER \ Temp \ WER6D92.tmp.csv \\? \ C: \ ProgramData \ Microsoft \ Windows \ WER \ Temp \ WER6DB2.tmp.txt
C: \ ProgramData \ Microsoft \ Windows \ WER \ ReportArchive \ AppCrash_LFS.exe_9a5287748b83a52d5f12c675c7b753b16141_d41fbd6c_5ee272ce

0
a469f8f3-c650-49aa-bcae-4b63c258f099
268435456
76f02b03e50ee22c923c99014ecc04d4
0"

Quote from Scawen :

OK, if LFS.exe is no longer running but there is no shutdown sequence in the deb.log then that says to me it must have crashed. So there should be a crash log somewhere. Can you try the 'reliability monitor' in Windows? If you click on the start button and type 'reliability' you may be able to see some crash reports there (critical events) and you can double-click an event to see some more information.

EDIT: Alternatively, Event Viewer -> Windows Logs -> Application - maybe some info there.

A crash address (or offset) and an exception code can sometimes help.

I can't find that "reliability" or at least the spanish translation is not correct, there is not any windows program which could be the one you tell me to execute.

Here the error log in Windows logs (attached the screenshot but in Spanish):

"Failed application name: LFS.exe, version: 0.0.0.0, timestamp: 0x5dbda5bf
Module name with errors: unknown, version: 0.0.0.0, timestamp: 0x00000000
Exception code: 0xc0000005
Error offset: 0x0df04367
Process identifier with errors: 0x5bb4
Application start time with errors: 0x01d591b67aaa6f92
Failed application path: E: \ LFS \ LFS.exe
Module path with errors: unknown
Report ID: a469f8f3-c650-49aa-bcae-4b63c258f099
Full package name with errors:
Relative application identifier of the package with errors:"

"- System

- Provider

[Name] Application Error

- EventID 1000

[Qualifiers] 0

Level 2

Task 100

Keywords 0x80000000000000

- TimeCreated

[SystemTime] 2019-11-02T19: 48: 22.498883100Z

EventRecordID 124549

Channel Application

Computer DESKTOP-8AA1RIM

Security


- EventData

LFS.exe
0.0.0.0
5dbda5bf
unknown
0.0.0.0
00000000
c0000005
0df04367
5bb4
01d591b67aaa6f92
E: \ LFS \ LFS.exe
unknown
a469f8f3-c650-49aa-bcae-4b63c258f099"

No, sorry for the misunderstanding. LFS does not appear in task manager after it closes, it happened once and with older U version (just U). With U8/9 it never has appeared in task manager or at least I am not able to see it. Is it called LFS.EXE right? (All processes are viewed)

Ok, I will test in english and with a fresh installation, without the wheel and everything else configured (I doubt they are a problem because I can play in monitor mode)

Parallel projections always has been disabled, I will try with it on.

Forget about "auricular" and sound problem, somehow the spanish translation calls to the HMD "auricular" (which I would use for the earphones / sound hardware)

I can see annoying blinks through HMD before the game closes (3/6 seconds after clicking the -vr shortcut), like an old TV but heavier

See me previous edited post, sorry for being slow editing it.

I did close the LFS in task manager, but only when I wanted to update from U to U8. Now I am doing the tests without closing it

Quote from Scawen :

Test Patch U9 is now available.


- When LFS is set to close the reason is logged to deb.log file

TRM.13: please try to enter VR and then as soon as it goes wrong and LFS closes, please attach the deb.log file

- Live telemetry is available in a new customisable OutSim packet

Programmers: https://www.lfs.net/forum/thread/93701

- Yellow and blue flags now alternate with RCM or penalty message
- FIX: Stop-go penalty caused car to get stuck in custom pit stop


Download: https://www.lfs.net/forum/thread/93185

No changes with -vr parameter, same closing
DEB files does not help much I think (attached both game starting ways)

EDIT: Watch the screenshot I have time to take. The auricular position appears red but HMD position stuf seems correct. Plus, the game closes when the sound init line has been created in DEB file when the game is started using the vr parameter. Audio problem? Let me how to test it

Last edited by TRM.13, Sat, 2 Nov 2019 16:39.

I have tried today, everything restarted obviously, and same result. The difference could be that I was able to see the next menu options a little bit longer. It is something related with the position, left/right and things like these.
Did you adjust the FPS limitation, reduced the supersampling, any graphic configuration, etc? I did not, everything full since my pc should be able to move the game easily. Maybe I am too optimistic?

I have tried with lower graphic configuration, testing one on one, and the same closing. I have tested with and without FPS limitation, shaders on/off, everything which could be related. I have even tried to click on "ok" red button but once the this last VR configuration window opens I lose the mouse cursor and enter key does not work either, it is a matter of 5 seconds the game closing.

Last edited by TRM.13, Sat, 2 Nov 2019 08:14.

I can't understand anything I see in windows event viewer, let me know what to look for.

For the record: when the game "crashes" the task it is still opened. I realised that when I wanted to update from U to U7 (not letting me updating LFS.EXE file)

More: If the Pimax are not connected and if I go to VR, steamvr opens but then game says "not able to open vr device" (not exactly these words but something like that). The game does not crash.

Thanks for such fast replay.

Here what log files have (sorry if I am not looking for the correct files):

ovr_deb.log


openvr.log


deb.log

I am back to LFS since years with the game left and unfortunately the game closes when I select VR. I use Pimax 5k+ and I think I do everything right. I can configurate everything but when I choose VR/OpenVR/solo configuration in VIEWS I see (only in monitor, not in the HMD) for a pair of seconds the next configuration window but then the game closes. I have the latests U patch, latest SteamVR and latest Pitools (1.01.197)

Thanks for the help and sorry if I did not see the solution in another thread (I have tried to find at least)

EDIT: I can play in monitor without any trouble

Last edited by TRM.13, Fri, 1 Nov 2019 20:33.

Ok, I give up

Quote from NeOn_sp :

Let me dealing with that problems. Lot of times, there just very little damage in suspension, and reparing take several seconds, and It doesn´t affect driving.

What I´m asking is know from Scawen if it´s possible to let us decide if we want our car repaired or not, just like in a normal pit stop.

I was talking about the pit mechanics, they can't change the tyres if they have damages in the bodywork. Maybe you can drive perfectly, but they can't do their work. (I am only reapeating Scawen words)

Quote from NeOn_sp :

Actually if you are driving R1, and decide to use R2, repair option is turned On without possibility of set it Off. Is possible of allow turn off easy?. ( spanish )..

Already answered many times, you can't change the tyres if you don't fix the car/suspension first due of the problems you will deal with

He told us already that he will become quiet again when he finishes this patch because he will start again doing maths and boring stuff.

So, enjoy this days

http://www.liveforspeed.es/mod ... amp;file=consulta_carrera

And every mondays the same, 80-160 players (depending on season/race type)

LFS isn't dead, maybe aslept but dreaming

Anyways, I have to agree with many of you; the contact with the "customers" is very usefull for the sales

Quote from tristancliffe :

You've been here a month, haven't asked many times, and clearly don't get the point of LFS or the decisions not to allow user content or accept 'help' from the community.

Besides, am I the only one that thinks the current level of detail is actually fine, and that the level of detail proposed above (and in GT5 etc) is a bit excessive? I'm all for realism at every level, but I don't think there is any benefit from having every last detail on the car.

No, you're not... I am playing right now Spectrum games

The spanish LFS community:

www.liveforspeed.es

Eldanor, update yourself

buy a friend, you will be happier

it didn't works

thank you anyway

I have a problem now, how can I unblock S2?