i guess u want to drift??? dont get a supra then

i really want one of these for racing
http://www.modifiedcars-export ... /inventory/de0200202.html

http://www.modifiedcars-export ... /inventory/de0200071.html


get this for drifting
http://www.modifiedcars-export ... /inventory/de0200081.html

or this
http://www.modifiedcars-export ... /inventory/de0200187.html

even this

http://www.modifiedcars-export ... /inventory/de0200043.html

personaly i agree Weshill is still one of my fav tracks. but it dose lack low speed corners and such and BL is awsome track but i have done well over 2000 laps of it and now i could allmost do the track with my eyes closed>

+1 for new tracks less layouts
+1 for new mechanics'
+1 for no changeable setups on road cars!!!

only pick i have of the car on the net atm

http://img515.imageshack.us/my.php?image=31180524740yn7.jpg

and dam i was slow that day a 220 HP datto 1600 was lapping 3 sec faster then a ultma GTR On NOS

and then u lose pwr :P petrol can only produce so much HP thats why draq teams and f1 cars and even indy cars dont run petrol they run exotic fuels like nirtomethain/methanol and such


btw for 1L of petrol vs 1L of methanol
petrol creates more power ie bigger explosion and that but it dosent allow u to run such high lvls of boost/comp/ timing and such and those 3 things create more power

lol their is no compression botten lmfao come on i know ur not that dence
and u should know that with water/meth u can run alot more boost and compression and sometimes fuel/ petrol will just detonate cause of the timing befor the spart even gose off. and i never said it was cause of not enough fuel

my car is a RB30ET VL its shit and has nothing to do with what im saying L

Quote from wheel4hummer :

Please don't drive anywhere near me, I beg you.


Wait... auto? Wow... I don't think you knew what you were doing. Why would you even bother tuning an FWD car with an automatic transmission? Unless by "track" you mean dragstrip, automatic transmissions are horrible for driving around a track.

FWHP sorry you miss interprited what i said i ment Fly wheel HP its a RWD and its manual now

and i dont drive the car on the road much

Quote from wheel4hummer :

There is NO WAY you can get 400HP from dumping water and a little bit of methanol into your engine.

loli never said 400 HP JUST FROM METHANOL your engine needs to be setup to run it ill give u a example

lets say u got a 6cyl engine running a big turbo capable of 45 psi and extream flow rates running 9.5 compression and it detonates cause of the fuel at 17 psi

now u got 2 options lower compression run more boost for more power or change ur fuel

if u go water/meth and run 12.1 compression and raise the boost to 40 psi you will make a SHITLOAD more power examples like that is what i was talking about

Quote from tristancliffe :

But I've not heard of anyone in this thread that 'tunes' their car and DOES know what they are doing.

lol man ur opions are you own. not many people do fully know

i will say this most people dont have access to telemtry read outs and that so they do most of their mods based on feel and what they wish to achive.

ok let me say this
when i first got my car i didnt know anything about it it come standed with 200 FWHP and it was auto,after geting the track bug i decided to clean up the air system cause it didnt have a intercooler,
i did a bar&plate 650x400x90 cooler with cold air intake and a 3.5inc dump from the turbo to a 3 inch mandrel bent exhaust with new high flow cat.
then i knew id need to do the suspension i replaced all the shocks and springs with lower ones. after driving it for 1 week i noticed the rear end was alot stifer then the front so after alot of hard work i convinced King Spings to make me a custom progressive sprint with 450 to 700 LB rating. this made the car alot more even and gave me better turn in. after that i noticed way to much over steer on exit of corners so i losened the rear sway bar cause the locker was causing problems.A and i allso changed all my tyres to 245x45x17 anything lower profile will cause to much issues with the crappy suspension.
now my car isent that fast but its all trial and error for me atm i got 340hp at the wheels and its SO much fun on the track id prefer to be scared and have a hard time controling the car then having a car that drives like its on rails

PS. The Most over looked think in any car is brake pads i still need to replace mine but dont have the 1800$ for the new pads
my current pads arnt cheap but they only lasted 2 laps befor they were faded

lol about the meth/water injection i dont know much about it in desiel aplications but a few people i know run it on their drag cars and it can help give a extra 100-400 HP on a 800/1200 HP engine so its very good depending on ur engine setup

and it is A BIG mod to set a engine up properly for this.

lol my main point i was geting across is their will allways be people that do things the smart way and others that do it the stupid way.personaly my car is setup for track use and is extreamly tail happy on the roads (ie the locker makes this so) but i dont do stupid or do things to look cool its all about enjoying what u have and having fun

lol jakq u oviously arnt a car enthuiest some people i know drive around with 500-650 HP at the wheels ie 800+ at the flywheel and they just drive it cause its not about the power its about having it their for what when they want to go to the track

lol u want a 4wd sports car give us a R34 GTR Nur or even a Nismo 400r shit id be happy with a nismo R32 GTR 11.84 standing 1/4

Quote from Stigpt :

Modding cars is 99% of the time, simply put... STUPID.

lol u enjoy racing oviously other wise u wouldnt be on a live for speed forum

how can u state this when 80% of all race cars out their were standed type cars at one point, then modiyfied?

but their are alot of idiots out their that wack a huge turbo (ie T51r) on a high comp 4cly and wonder why it it blew up running 14psi with 11.1 compression

the sience of modiyfcations of anything can come down to such a fine art that you might only find 5 people in the world that know everything their is to know about what you wish to achive.

Quote from Turbo Dad :

Could you explain?...

lol what he is saying is correct anyone that knows something about cars knows more power =more problems.
standed cars are not Tuned for max power and econemy they are tuned so that they will run smooth and without problems for as long as possible.

ill give u a example
lets say a car is running 14/1 AF ratio and thats arround what it should be but on a forced induction car that leans out and more boost is applyed the AF meter and detonation senser reads this and trys to bring it back to its default setting.now if u advance the timing and run more boost it leans out and the AF gets lower and you get more power untill you hit the detonation wall.

the detonation wall is caused by the car leaning out and can destory a car in a matter of seconds even in colder enviroments are car will run leaner then if it was 5deg hotter the sensors are ment to cope with this but their is only so much they can do so car manufactures detune the car and never run the injectors at max psi to keep the car running down with out destorying the engine.

so basicly The Engines are not tuned for your needs they are tuned for everyones needs!

and if u mod cars NEVER Chip the ecu REPLACE IT!

motec/haltec/microteck/powerfc
will do all ur modding needs dependant on ur car

i like pillows they are soft and dont hurt when u eat them

they had that law here in australia for a while now and im a smoker and when i drink i smoke even more. but i do agree with the law's but dont beleave they should exclude smoking so drasticly i mean some pubs and bar's created outdoor aera's so smokers could dance drink and party in the out door shaded aera's

u own a boing 727 and u crash it into a car trying to race and die

I wish all the hot girls in the world only wore G strings

personaly i think the road supers heat up to slowly on the track i had my tyres front and back really hot after just 2 laps RL im talking about

lol tyres arnt everything allso my car with 235's cam get off the line as good as a car with 265's suspension weight distrobutions tq curv's all these things come into factor and i have seen 500 HP cars run 14.5's with 117 mph u can run 13's at 98 mph if u get a good launch

i say we shoot everyone that thinks motor sport is bad (exept Hot girls) and shoot everyone that is fat and to lazy to walk their ass 2 mins to the shop and then we can enjoy our motor sport and rail hot chicks!

one thing i find funny is Keiichi Tsuchiya still holds the record for tbuska <-- spelling in a NSX race car


one thing i find funny about ur coments ian is ur totaly bias to the fact that anyone else could have a differnt state of mind then you. you remind me of the polititions they are right and will allmost force u to see that.

as for drifting i do think drifting dose require more skill then racing at a competive lvl in a sence but professional drifting i cant stand its like syncro swiming pritty to watch but not that cool drifting for fun and learning car controle is where its at.

as for drifting roundabouts in ur cossie lmao man how easy is it to go around and around sideways it takes not much skill linking muilty corners and holding ur lines is where the fun is at

and i have one REALLY REALLY fast drifters on demo servers running 1:24's consistant on BL XRT but only cause i asked for a race not a drift

i would have to dissagree im allways looking at my speeds at the entry apex and exit of corners to see what i can do with differnt lines.

i do this in LFS and on the Real track

but i only use this for a genral rule to get good times once i know what rev's im listing for i wont look at it again

no its slower but thats the way i drive

the track days i go to are timed

na i totaly understand but if it gets big and popular then it my work anyways gl with everything i might sing up once i have time