It's good to see LFS'ers up with the best of them

Hey Viktor Sz. You are approaching Alien status mate, I've seen you racing on here and GTR2 online and iracing and your rather quick.......you are on my list of 'hated fast barstuads' .

What I find nice is that you get people like Dale Earnhardt Jr replying to peoples posts on the iRacing forum, helping with set up advise and likes.....jees i'm almost starstruck

The Skip takes a bit of getting used to after the Solstice, after over 30 races I struggled to keep it on the track for the whole race. If you drive it too conservatively the lift off oversteer was a nightmare.........so I bought a book lol.....'Going Faster' The Skip Barber Book.......no joke it is the best thing I've done for my Simracing, I have gone from under 1200 iR to nearly 1600 in two days and I can now almost stay on the track........no joke the book has made me identify all my bad driving issues.......fixing them is another story I guess

Unfortunately when I drive LFS now it doesn't feel quite right anymore, LFS will always be my favourite place to be though it got me hooked on Sim Racing and the crowd here is top notch...........even if our Halfords Team has fallen to ******* bits .....! hehe

Are you sure that's Thomas? I reckon it's Nick Heidfeld....the beard gives it away. Nick/Thomas you should be in bloody Valencia man!

Hope you all have a great time, my moneys on Mackie FTW......and likely any drinking contests as well.

Sorry I couldn't make it.....my little lad's not been great.

Nice, helpfull, quick and sorted, highly recommended.

Quote from Primoz :

You mean IP35-PRO? Never heard of the XE Good board though.

Hi mate, the XE is new out with 1600 FSB

http://www.abit.com.tw/page/uk ... YPE=LGA775&DEFTITLE=Y

My bits are arriving slowly but surely, I've ended up getting a Dell 2408wfp monitor and the mirror SE version of the Antec P182 case, also I have gone for the Raptor X HDD.

With the 'gay' mirror case I should be able to have a shave without going afk and my wife liked the look of it.

I've also ordered a Asus Eee PC 900 in white as a surprise for my wife, it's the dinkiest laptop I have ever seen.

I am now totally skint and will have to sleep in a cardboard box by the side of the road for the LFS Newcastle weekend.

Last edited by AlienT., Sat 3 May 2008, 17:16.

If your planning on using a single Graphics card check out the new Abit IP35 pro XE, similar to the well respected IP35 Pro but has 1600 fsb supported. If you need built in wifi then I would go for the P5K premium wifi.
The E8400 seems to be very good value.

I have been madly studying PC components for the last few week and these are my thoughts for a single GPU solution.

Hey Todd,

I've been geeking it up a bit recently so not been racing so much, I must have been on every PC website ever written . I'll be back on track more soon.

Oh and OT I have now gotten an Abit mobo instead of the Asus P5k, I managed to get a IP35 Pro XE. It took some seraching to find one in the UK.

My plan was really an 8800gt, but I got that GTS for £96 which is not bad compared to the UK retail price for that specific GPU.

This is what I've now ordered.

1 x ASUS P5K Premium WiFi-Black Pearl AP iP35 Socket 775 8 channel audio 142854 (new)
1 x E6750 Intel Core 2 Duo 2.66GHz Processor and Fan (used)
1 x XFX GeForce 8800GTS PCI-E 320MB GPU (used)
2 x Kingston 2GB (2x1GB) DDR2 800MHz/pc2-6400 Hyperx Memory Nvidia SLI- Ready Unbuffered Cl4(4-4-4-12) Non-ECC 2.0v 128660 (1 pair new, 1 used)
1 x Coolermaster eXtreme Power 650W PSU - ATX 12V V2.01 120mm Fan 20+4pin
116522 (new)
1 x Antec P182 Gunmetal Grey Super Mid Tower Case - No PSU 126946 (new)

Total conned out of £546.00 which includes delivery.

Now to find a monitor

Thanks to everyone for their advice.

Too late it's done now , I don't think I've done too badly really , The specific GPU I've got retails for a fair bit more than I payed, although I'm sure theres no noticable difference between that and the OcUK home brand that you have shown. I realise I could have gotten better RAM probably, but I will just keep those 2 in until I eventually get vista 64 then upgrade to 4Gb. That and the fact they are alraedy with the rest of the compnents.

Anyway I've been on e-bay and bought this lot nearly new and I'm now on the ebay search for a P5K or good deal P35 mobo and another 2G of similar RAM

Kingston HyperX 2x1GB DDR2 800MHz Dual Channel for £41
XFX GeForce 8800GTS PCI-E 320MB for £96
Core 2 Duo Processor E6750 for £86

They are probably not my ideal components but the prices are not too bad and they all come from the same PC and seem balanced enough??.

Someone else outbid me to the pK5 mobo and 10000rpm 150G HDD that were with the above, so I'll have to get them elsewhere.

Oh and I remember the days when building something remotely electronic involved a solder iron and a large hammer. Jees all the bits of these beasts plug together like lego blocks these days......I've not got round to reading about bios fiddling as yet though and god be dammed you can buy components with flashing lights nowadays...I'm sure I read somewhere that unused SATA slots can now be filled with the new "Vibrating Vagina DIMM" technology, this technology involves the connection of a 3.5" drive to your case front panel for those ultamate moments of pleasure during enemy anialation and also to release the strain of being a useless gamer should that be rquired.
This technology is in it's infancy still as it only supports vibrating frequencies of 256MHz, this clearly not enough for the extreme pervert. Dual core and, god forbit, quad core.
Vibrating Vagina DIMM (VD for short) should be onsale as soon as some bastard comes up with a self cleaning case solution.


Oh dear am I rambling

Edit...hey Niels

Quote from AlienT. :

I was going to base my system around P35 and go with an Abit IP35 or Asus PK5 E wifi mobo with a E8200 or E8400 processor with a single 9800 GX2/GTX GPU.

2nd Rig, Well probably the best cost/performance budget ratio around at the moment.

The above is probably better value right now than the X38 if I were on a budget and don't plan to upgrade too much?

Damn too many options, i'm off to play with my Xbox...

Meh crossfire/SLI, im still a confused noob.....I am not planning to use either right now anyway.

OK so what other reasons are there to get X38 over P35, apart from the fact they can support better Quad CPU for 1920X1200 gaming and slightly more future proof (although I realise nothing really is).

Hmm after some more reading, I see that quad processors (Q6600) are slightly better at higher resolution (1920 x 1200) gaming than the equivelant priced duo.

Also X38 boards supporting quad 45nm are quite affordable(ish) and will be better for future upgrading. I could also get SLI without using nforce. I still plan to only fit one gpu for the moment though.

I think this is what I am going to do now Q6600 and X38

Abit IX38 QuadGT Intel X38 (So ... -Express DDR2 Motherboard
- 45 nm Penryn CPU ready
- Intel® X38 Express
- FSB 1600
- Dual DDR2 1066/800

This seems a good specced board for around £150, it also should keep me going a couple of years as it supports many a CPU upgrade. DDR2 1066 ram should be ok for a while? I could always stick 8 meg in for when S3 comes out........ (maybe we'll be on DDR 6 by then :P) and I can SLI if I want down the line.

Any thoughts would be welcome

Last edited by AlienT., Sun 13 Apr 2008, 22:42.

I've been outbid on the 680i anyway so I'm going to opt for P35. why is nforce chipset so bad?

Question: If a mobo has 2 x PCI-E 2 (new type) will it not support crossfire and SLI?. I'm sure I've seen some new X38 mobos that can support both? I'm not talking about the skulltrail mobo here.

Last edited by AlienT., Sun 13 Apr 2008, 18:34.

Guys what do you guys think of this mobo?

EVGA nForce 680i SLI Motherboard?

It is on ebay for £90.00 sealed an unopened, seems a nice deal. (well thats what my max bid is and the auction ends in about 40 mins :shrug. Then get a E6750 or Q6600 CPU and round is of with 2 x SLI linked 8800gt or 9600gt GPU.

I was going to base my system around P35 and go with an Abit IP35 or Asus PK5 E wifi mobo with a E8200 or E8400 processor with a single 9800 GX2/GTX GPU.

Pros/cons. - 1st rig is a very good deal for mobo and SLI. but heard reviews that chipset is not the best.

2nd Rig, Well probably the best cost/performance budget ratio around at the moment.

Anyway I will get one of the above with a good case of my choice and a branded 600 to 800w power supply, Vista 64 with 4G of quality Ram.

I reckon it's goin to cost me around £700, probably a bit less as I am a tight assed Scotmen and am not afraid of ebay

Last edited by AlienT., Sun 13 Apr 2008, 18:16.

I wasn't really planning on getting DD3, i just thought that the bundle was maybe a good deal. I'll find a suitable 8400 or 8200 and some DDR2.

Quote from Toddshooter :

I recommend you get your tongue in gear and your lips puckered, to kiss your wifes ass You don't want to end up in divorce court!!!!!

Oh and since your a total muppet like me get someone else to build it

It's refreshing to hear how much faith you have in me Todd , Remember we bosom buddies in the fight against the secretive HR skinners club, I've heard they worship goats in there. (Todd will know what I'm on about...)

Anyway on topic

Corsair 2GB (2x1024MB) PC3 10666 Dual Channel DDR3 (TWIN3X2048-1333C9DHX G) XMS3-1333 C9 DHX

Intel Core 2 DUO E8500 3.16 GHz 6MB Cache 1333FSB Socket LGA775 - Retail

Asus P5E3 Deluxe / WiFi-AP Intel X38 DDR3 Crossfire Motherboard

This is a bundle for sale for £404, I'm struggling to find many E8500's for sale so this looked interesting? any thoughts.

Quote from thisnameistaken :

Just don't get carried away with shopping for components - it's all too easy to spend a few hundred quid more than you really need to. IMO right now there's no really compelling reason to buy a fancy gaming computer because there are no especially intensive-looking titles coming out that look like must-plays.

I bought a new PC this time last year and suckered myself into spending more than I wanted to. What did the game developers offer me by way of compensation? Bioshock and Crysis. I rest my case.

Yep Kev I've got a bad tendancy to to that, all too often unfortunately.

Quote from Mackie The Staggie :

OK, I have sat on this for far too long and is now eating away at me for so long, but any more and I'll explode.....and that ain't good for my health.:mad:

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laughed at this

I've moved this here.

I am building my frirst PC and have been asking for some assistance in other threads, I feel I am hijacking too many threads lol so I thought I'd start my own.

Backgound info summary on how I got to here

Step1 - Looking for a monitor as I'm fed up playing LFS on my laptop.
Step 2 - Being told that my laptop GPU is not up to the job at running games at high settings and 1900x1200 on any monitor, I agree
Step 3 - Convince my self that I need new PC after finding that upgrading my laptop GPU is non viable option really (It is a 6800 ultra GO I've got now).
Step - 4 It is going to be a budget system
Step - 5 Convince the Mrs that the new PC would be a benefit to the whole family (muhahaha!)
Step - 5 Start reading PC build forums for far too many hours
Step - 6 I knew it! I've talked myself into getting a better system.
Step - 7 Deciding on the components oh dear so much variety and choice of components this is where I am at.
EDIT: Step - 8 Budget £800 to £1000, I don't need a monitor or any keyboard, mouse etc.

No matter what the hardest part of this complete build proces will have been to convince my wife to let me get a desktop. (Not told her how much it's going to cost yet.

Last edited by AlienT., Fri 25 Apr 2008, 04:26. Reason : added budget

moved

Thanks for the advice I'm going to probably leave the quad for now and get a decent Duel core 2....well until I change my mind again