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sinanju
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New times and drift scores ...

sinanju
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Quote from gu3st :Yeah.. I've just assumed that some of them are using old pirated versions. Especially as I think 1 of them specifically needed info for an older version of Lapper

In future, I think I'll ignore every demo player's posts for info / help.

If they are legal, and they're using lapper, then they're able to afford renting a server, so should be able to afford a license.
sinanju
S3 licensed
By "help", do you mean you can't get your code to work, or are you looking for someone to code it for you?
sinanju
S3 licensed
From LFSLapper.lpr ...

sinanju
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There's an Event for that.

Search your LFSLapper.lpr file for "Actions to do on Insim Checker/Checkpoint (AutoX object)".

Alternatively, you could probably use a Zone or Node if you're more used to these.
sinanju
S3 licensed
Some slight changes to the top times and drift scores.

sinanju
S3 licensed
Well, someone beat a number of my times - especially with the fast cars.

sinanju
S3 licensed
Glad you liked it.

This layout, like most of mine, is a single-lap time trial layout.

A single player does a lap, and times/drift scores are recorded and saved. There's an option (!top or !drift) to compare times/scores with other drivers.

The bridges were put in to both upset the balance of the vehicles, as you may need to have ride height slightly higher/softer suspension than optimum than if the track was totally flat, and it also gives the track a little bit of undulation.
sinanju
S3 licensed
Top Times and Drift Scores July 4, 2024 ...

Also attached table that shows top times for every vehicle type (standard LFS vehicles and a selection of mods) that's allowed to be driven on the server.
sinanju
S3 licensed
Had to hack at one of my 'trees' to get some more objects, but the gap is now fixed.
sinanju
S3 licensed
Quote from Flame CZE :...Do you think I could use your sign buttons in my app? ...

Go for it - I made it public so anyone can use it.
I don't need the credit, but thanks for the offer Thumbs up
sinanju
S3 licensed
Quote from Flame CZE :That's actually cool! I've wanted to do something like this for a "driving lessons" style InSim. Is it still available to download?

The layout and lapper code is available HERE.
Not sure how useful it will be as InSim and lapper have been upgraded a lot since then, and whereas I can get Nodes to work in the current lapper, I can't seem to manage Zones, which is how the original script worked.
Enter Zone | stop script used in previous Zone | start new Zone script.
However, script shows what characters I've used to make sign, along with sizes of characters.
In lapper, something like
openPrivButton( "ne_text",163,68,18,8,1,-1,0,"^0NO ENTRY");
Where 163 = place in from left
68 = place from top
18 = width of character
8 = height of character
1 = character spacing if multi-line
-1 = time to appear (-1 = always. Needs to be closed by script)
0 = background colour (choice of none, light, dark).

For those that have programmed stuff to work with InSim, this is probably obvious stuff, but easy to replicate as all I really did was open a button when you reached a Zone, closed it in the next Zone, while at same time, opening another button.

Used exactly same system, when I made a layout and script to make pace notes -
sinanju
S3 licensed
I made my own a decade ago ...


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sinanju
S3 licensed
Almost 30 top timed runs and drift scores...
Thought it would be nice to have the top time before too many more people try the layout.

Drift scores not high as I think people who've been on the server have been trying for quick times.
sinanju
S3 licensed
Quote from Bass-Driver :Very nice looking layout and fun to drive. I like how the minimap looks on this layout.....Big grin

Hi.
Just saw you've taken the top spots on the list Smile

Glad you like the layout. I tend to drive in VR now, so cars and track stuff looks good.

As for curbs - I'd need to get rid of a tree or two, to have enough curb objects. And if there were more objects, I'd probably put in more other 'stuff' round the track first, to break up the background a bit more.

Overlapping buttons - this is my 'little people' messages. Likely I'll have to either totally overhaul whole lot, or simplify it to one message.
sinanju
S3 licensed
You need to look in your log folder...

bin/default/logs/<ip address>.err.log

Should give you more info, like I recently had ...

6/15/2024 3:21:53 PM -> Syntax error in cfg file: Need string or '.' or ';' on file: ".\default\.\includes\.\pitboard.lpr" at line #443

sinanju
S3 licensed
Quote from THEFRENCHDESTOYER :The right layout seem very fun to drive, i like the process. Hype to try

So I've rented a LFS Server - Sin'rs Too - and it's running the 'Robbenfelsen Infield' layout.

See if you like driving it.

Has all original 20 LFS cars, plus an assortment of 20 mods, from a bus to single seater F1 type vehicles. No motorbikes.

As of today (16 June 2024), there's about 10 times recorded. Mainly the slower mods.

I'm using LFSLapper ("lapper") to record times and drift scores.

Haven't used lapper in couple of years, and since a major update, so back to the learning curve, and trying to get things working properly.

!top - to list top times
!drf - to list top drift scores
sinanju
S3 licensed
I've now finished the layout.

Tidied up the infield section, slightly changed the hairpin, added more signage,and added some stands, etc. I also added a small pit area.

So there are 3 route choices - perimeter, infield and short.


Still haven't thought of a name, although 'seal_on_a_rock' was one of the first things that came to mind when I was colouring the 3 routes.

Robbenfelsen Perimeter / Robbenfelsen Infield / Robbenfelsen Short?

ALtogether, because I placed everything by hand/eye, changed things as I went along, spent a bit of time tidying things up, etc., I spent anything from 24 - 30 hours on this layout.

Anyway, I hope you found the process interesting.
sinanju
S3 licensed
Quote from UnknownMaster21 :It looks so much from Gran Turismo series.

Is that a good thing?
sinanju
S3 licensed
I've now got about 95% of the perimeter track done. Just the very fiddly last chicane to do.

I've changed the squiggly bit in the middle of the track. Just copied and pasted large turn I had made in another layout, then turned it a bit to join the first part, then pasted the turn again about 180 deg, so it joined the existing perimeter, then added a little straight between the first 2 curves I placed, where both ends kept curving round, then fiddled with it till it looked about right.



From a distance, it looks neat and tidy, but it's not. I need to work on it a bit.

So now I've got a perimeter layout, a short layout, and a no idea what to call a mainly perimeter with large infield section layout.

The next stage will be to finish the last chicane, fix the infield section, and add more signage. After that, play around with the walls. I think I'll lower a lot of them, so the track looks less constrained. Then, depending on how many objects are left, add some stands or some such.

The last thing to do will likely be the hardest; thinking of a name for the layout.

But I'm not going to be able to work on this layout again till at least the weekend.
sinanju
S3 licensed
More work this evening.

Cleaned up the short section, putting in proper (joined up) barriers all round.

Also worked on making both a rough layout of the overall circuit, as well as very rough path for another alternative route - the orange looking squiggly bit inside the layout.


It's likely that the orange piece of track from top left, curving down to the bottom will be close to the lines I put down, but the squiggly bit in the middle of the overall layout may change a lot - maybe to a very large 'S' shape, joining higher up closer to the track before it turns right.

A lot will probablhy depend on how many objects I have left after finishing the overall perimeter of the layout, although simpler likely to be much better anyway. And simpler to do too.
sinanju
S3 licensed
Visually, this V4 looks like V3, but for this update, I sort of joined the dots, and roughly placed walls to show track edges.


The long lines in the images (yellow lines with orange dots) are mainly insim lines, which you can only see in SHIFT U mode - not when driving. I use these for drawing straights and curves. Very handy when you want to keep outside and inside barriers equidistant throughout a turn. You can also use Insim Circles, but sometimes I prefer my squares. I used the squares to make my 'S' bend.

16mx16m insim checkpoints made into squares and each square turned to make a rough outside and insie line.

After I put barriers in place all round this short track, I then reversed it to see what it was like.

I prefer the reverse layout. But I'll continue with the original, clockwise, direction just now.

I've included lyt's for both for anyone that wants to try them out.
sinanju
S3 licensed
Anyway.

I spent a little time working on an 'S' section, then looped round to the start/finish straight. The corners aren't quite 90 degrees.

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Next stage will lbe putting in walls (likely roughly positioning), just to see what it's like to drive.
sinanju
S3 licensed
Not expecting anyone to believe me, but I had to go look up Grand Valley track. You say plagiarism, my first thought was serendipity, but not really happy about it, so coincidence would bea better word.

Any tracks I've copied I've said that's what I've done.
sinanju
S3 licensed
So more work on layout.

As I had intended, I put in a chicane past the 'Y' junction, although it took a lot of trial and error. Originally had it much tighter so you almost had to crawl round, but I eventually made something that flows a lot better.

To start with, I had concrete walls on outside, with banner signboards on the inside. But problem is that when you hit the outside wall, the wall acts as bumpers to get you partly round, whereas with the banners, if you hit them, because they're angled, you end up going up and over them, or rolling the car. So the way they are now, you have to treat them with a bit of respect.


I spent so long doing the chicane, I barely had time for anything else.

However, I've laid a 'S' bend route leading to another straight, and from the straight, I'll probably loop it back round to the start/finish straight.
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