Quote from Scawen :

Just a moment, you can't say I didn't give you a chance. I had nothing to do with it.

The problem is, as i see it, the thread was going on and, nothing to do with your posts at all, others were having pointless arguments. Apparently Gunn was receiving complaints about it. I assume that when he received complains from users, and he also didn't like the insults going on, he decided to move the posts.

Only, instead of moving the exact posts, he decided that it would be more fair to move all OT posts, rather than just the offending posts. Clearly he was trying to keep the forum clean. Clearly it has all gone wrong somewhere and i'm quite fed up with this, really boring.

Can't we just let it go, and see what happens in the future?

It wasn`t you that did it, sorry. I meant the moderator off course.. ;-)

It cant be that boring, because there was a new thread regarding moved/deleted posts.. ;-) ( i cant get the smilies to work, sorry)...

Nothing more from me on this moved/deleted posts, i think you know my opinion on that now... :-)

Quote from Scawen :

There are two recently, both of which turned into pure "insult and argument" threads.

Not much argument and insult in the things i wrote. So it is a mistake to remove posts that is inside the rules here in this forum. Maybe in the thread were my posts was there was some insults, but you didn`t gave me a chance to read all in that thread because it was suddenly moved/deleted and thats not fair imo. IN a thread like the dE there could be some posts that was insulting, but then only remove/delete the posts who is insulting, not ALL posts. And some also said that our posts in that thread was off-topic and therfor moved/deleted, but in this case it should have been put into the off-topic forum. Arguments are inside the rules, insults is not....just my humble opinion..

EdiT: Scawen wrote: "When threads turn into childish insult competitions where no one can back down and everyone needs to get the last word, then the thread is likely to be deleted"...

Bad idea...just lock it. There could be some very interesting posts in a thread like that, so just delete the ones who is insulting.

Last edited by Richard Torp, Mon, 12 Sep 2005 17:42.

Quote from Rumiko :

You should really speak to the moderator (pm) about your posts and reason for their removal.

Cheers :ernaehrun

I also DID that, sorry my friend...you are not quit sharp these days ... ;-)

Quote from Rumiko :

This forum has rules. If you don't like the rules, don't sign up. It's that simple. Open your own private forum if you like and stop being a bother to the rest of this commnunity. Period.

Hehe... i WAS INSIDE THE RULES, just to let you know that, but my posts was gone in the wind...after what i saw from Kid he was also inside..There was not much insulting in my post, only bad publicity for dE...nothing worse than critisice Microsoft etc. etc...Period...*LOL*

Last edited by Richard Torp, Sat, 10 Sep 2005 16:01.

Have you all got what you ordered or did you got a refund?

I can read in their forum that a guy have waited months for his order and now he also have waited for over a month for a refund...

I ordered something at dE, but it was the WORST ever shop i had ever supported. A lot of promises, NO ONE answered my mails, wrong shirts delivered and a lot more. A lot of excuses from the owners like: We have no internet atm, and we have some personal problems and so on, i could write a whole story about their bad excuses.
And i can see in their forum atm, that some orders are not fulfilled yet after 4 months or so. A guy even asked for a refund over 1 month ago, but still no money to him and no answers from the owners...
And the prizes after dE ladder seems also gone in the wind. The prize winners have waited for 7 months, i can read that at their forum ;-)

Edit: Most of it above was moved from the original thread by the Moderator. Its taken out of a thread were other people spoke their mind about dE...and therefor the thread here can look a little bit strange. Imo the moderator should bring all the missing posts, here in this threads. So please do that so i dont look that stupid...

BTW: A very important part of one of my posts are missing...I SAID that the dE drivers in LFS are great guys.. :-)

Last edited by Richard Torp, Thu, 15 Sep 2005 17:09.

Quote from inCogNito :

maybe we should just open a new thread about dE and the shop

that way it would be on topic!

NO moderator should delete anything...he could have moved it. But seems like this begins to look like RSC forum...
But just as you know from now on...no one must write anything negative on Microsoft, Sony, ISI, and so on...threads willl be deleted by Moderator...

I wonder how many threads that is 100% on-topic...

Edit: You could give Me a explanation why you deletes my posts. It took me time to write it and ALL i said was 100% true - i can show you some evidence. Why did you choose to delete the negative words for dE? Will you delete posts in the future that is negative for other companys all over the world?. Why not bring the negative posts on dE in off-topic forum?
How many post have you deleted in other threads? Is this a common thing?

Last edited by Richard Torp, Fri, 9 Sep 2005 19:21.

Quote from Gunn :

I have cleaned some off-topic posts from this thread.

Despite the existance of so many varied points of view, many not entirely related to the topic's title, the LFS Forum is probably not the most suitable place for people to air their grievances.

Members can continue to discuss the topic without biting each other too hard please. Please do be passionate about your point of view, but please choose words more carefully.

Remember, on this forum we are here for LFS. :eclipseeh

thanks everyone

And were did you hide these posts? You didn`t just deleted them, did you?

Sounds good, im in...

After 36 hours i asked for a refund for rFactor.
I tried everything to love this game, but in my world only one game counts, LFS S2...
rFactos doesn`t seem to be right for me. The feeling of the cars, the bad grapichs, trouble getting good ff from my black Momo and a lot more ended my rFactor history. And most of the times i looked after some on-line players but could hardly find any who would stay for longer than few minutes. CTD during 2 of my SHORT races. Netcode seems to be ok after all imo.

S2 and S3...

My game is still LFS, no doubt about that. Im looking forward to new car sounds, night transition and a little bit better tyre grip later on in LFS.
I had run most of the evening alone on the rFactor servers. There are only 90 racers online according to Racecast and i have trouble finding somebody to race with. If I find some, people are leaving after only one lap or so. Not much are going on for a completly new game.

But maybe eveything is getting better when Mods arrives.

I LOVE LFS, thx. devs.

Quote from Da Hoe :

first post in this thread, attached files

My glasses was very dirty....illepall

Cant find the link right now to the LFS Stats. where?