Quote from s01id :

When talking about demo, S2 users always mention that "demo" means "demonstration". Alright, so the problem seems to be in that word ("demo"). If the demo was named e.g. "S0", would it still be a problem? Because it wouldn't be a demonstration anymore. It would just be free content.

very good point.

Quote from richo :

Spot on.

After months of use you know you enjoy it please pay the guys that made it , its not the fact that i paid and you didnt its the fact that you should support the guys that have worked hard to make the thing.

delray25 this isn't a demo flame war at all, i just wanted peoples opinions. sorry your offended.

Demo users plz note, you are most welcome to use the the S0 cargame.nl demo server.

just wanted to know what demo users and S users thought.

our forums for demo are here:

http://www.cargame.nl/forum/demo-server/

no offence intended

Admin plz lock thx

ok i just like to start by saying this is not a demo hater thread, i'm a member of cargames.nl and we have a popular server for demo users to use.

i used demo for a few "years" back in the day, and because i was impressed bought the game got more content and the devs got alittle pay rise aswell lol.

my question is this. demo is like s0 if you will..... you can play as long as you want with 3 cars and one track (iirc). people play it for years, and even tho demo players in some cases do go on the buy the game and support the devs and development, some dont. they have played for years will continue too.

so.... should the demo version be restricted so once people have tried and tested lfs they have to buy to continue to play?

limited number of laps / time maybe?

again not a demo flame, just wanted to know peoples opinions. after all DEMO is demo.

anybody know of any tvr body repair experts in manchester

hmmm i'm gonna go and try this in my TVR...... maybe its a rwd thing

Quote from oohhh yeah :

thx^^

i got an STi in real life and never got the chance to drive a powerful RWD so maybe i dunno wat im talkin about...

oh dear STI --> http://hcd2.bupa.co.uk/fact_sh ... transmitted_diseases.html

lol are you using a mouse/keyboard...... i can't put full throttle on fo8 fzr bf1 or xrr with out spinin' off.... maybe your bro has "gay* mode" on



*nothing wrong with being gay.

Quote from danthebangerboy :

LOL i had forgotten all about that :huepfenic.

Made EVEN funnier when clubland TV went wrong and jizzed in my pants ended up being played at least twice back to back!

just shown the mrs the videos

"im on a mother f**kin' boat"

and;

"and i.... jizzed..... in ....my pants"

funny as foook

Quote from cargame.nl :

Special thanx to John Hilton, our driver during the weekend.

Managed to catch our plane just in time. And I really mean -just- in time.

Because I putted my harddisks in my hand luggage with my pillow it got a special bomb check as well

Rudolfa was amazed that I do almost everything to delay a flight LOL

--
A big thanks for Jason of course for arranging the weekend... Really enjoyed it!

LOL OMG!

can't belive i got you there on time!!! *




*70mph max speed

LOL get well soon rock clan

Quote from BreadC :

BK

Thats a plan!

Quote from Bob Smith :

First lets consider what's happening:

A locked diff does not ever permit tyres to rotate at different angular velocities. When driving round a corner in a car, the inside and outside wheels will travel different distances, so if they were allowed to free wheel, the inside wheel would rotate slower. Also weight transfer would put more load on the outside wheel, squishing it further, making the rolling radius smaller, further increasing the difference in free rolling angular velocities between inside and outside tyres.

As the wheels are not free rolling, this creates a slip ratio in the tyres when cornering. If no torque is being sent from the engine to the wheels, then this will be a negative slip ratio from the outside tyre (as it will be turning too slow), and a positive slip ratio from the inside tyre (it will be turning too fast).

These slip ratios create forces; how much depends on the braking stiffnesses of the two tyres (assuming the friction limit of the tyres is not breached). This force is negative for the outside wheel and positive for the inside wheel, these sum to create a torque in the opposite direction to that created by steering the car into the turn. So the car will not change direction as quickly, as the yaw torque will be reduced.

This reduction in yaw torque is the main reason cars are slower in tight bends with a locked diff (the smaller the radius of turn, the greater the proportion of the track width to turn radius, and thus the greatest slip ratios are produced when cornering).

So friction is not usually the limiting factor when it comes to tyre scrub caused by a locked diff, and even if it were wrong in LFS, it shouldn't be wrong by more than a few percent; not enough to explain the issues.

If the braking stiffness of the tyres was too low, however, the same slip ratios would give less longitudinal force, thus less yaw torque to slow the cars rotation, and thus less penalty for using one.

Braking stiffness is a very dynamic property, varing with load, tyre pressure, and slip angle, so my first point of suspicion would be that something is causing it to be too low.

that just fried my brain, but has to be the best answer i've ever read

Quote from jasonmatthews :

johnhilton
cargame.nl
mackash
andrew lovett

as long as we are competitive and we win thats fine

if you need any extra moneys to pay for a smaller team i can do that also if needed. (be better to give you any moneys tonight now tbh)

Quote from peterules :

Probably means that all the skinny people are just gonna hit max revs on the straight lol! Sounds good to me

ok from a weight point of view.... is 80kg light or heavy

Quote from cargame.nl :

Really? Hhmm but an air bed is better then a sofa.. Or you must have real nice sofa's

(I don't have an air bed though)

*Stares at sleeping bag in open suitcase*

LOL i have a double airbed i could bring.... but i'm married which means we'll have to top and tale LOL

Quote from Neilser :

Fear not. Men are renowned for noticing and appreciating when women clean the house, change their hairstyles, buy new clothes....

well i was up till 2.00am cleanin' my house last night.

Quote from BreadC :

assuming can bring own helmet

rucksack with clothes - check
diesel - check
tent - check
sleeping bag - check
dubstep + dance music - check
helmet - check

dont think im missing anything other than passengers on the day xD

might bring my kevin schwantz helmet... showin' my age now.

might bring a tent also, not sure..... how many people are stayin' at the house jason?

oops the volcano is at it again all flights suspended into the UK!!!!!





















how many of you just check the news then? ..... see you all on friday night after i've picked up cargame.nl and sr prod from liverpool

i can't wait now

Quote from Mackie The Staggie :

Hey, we don't mock the German language and how it sounds...


......much.....


..anymore....


...OK the, maybe a little, but it's mainly the English and we do tell them off for it

i'm sorry i didn't understand a word of that

Quote from cargame.nl :

since when is that a problem? Nothing wrong with 18-21

i thought most would be 21-30????

im 26

anybody over 60?

Quote from cargame.nl :

Flights booked.

[SR] Prodigy / Rudolfa did the same thing so we travel together.

woohoo now who has a video recorder so we can document the road trip

Quote from franky500 :

would he not be better to tube it to heathrow to jump in your car BreadC?

His other alternative is to take the train like me!.

@Cargame yes public transport is not great at all, I was just letting you know there is an option even if nobody can drive you.

yeah he'll get there lots of us with planes trains and fxrs