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Günni92
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Thank you for your feedback, I have to say that I completely get where you came from. I listened to the video with my headphones on and suddenly everything sounded like it always did.

And this is where I am completely confused now. If I listen to it via the living room speakers, the FZR onboard sounds like a vacuum. If I listen to the video on my phone, it also does sounds like a vacuum onboard.

But with the headphones everything is as I know it, interior is a bit muffled but the sound scape is basically the same.

How is this possible. Am I going deaf? Very confused now, definitely seems to be a technical issue, not an LFS bug.
Engine sounds flat from interior cameras
Günni92
S3 licensed
Hello,

I have a weird issue - as soon as I use one of the two interior cameras, some cars begin to sound really flat. I made a quick video so you can see what I am talking about:



This began a few months ago. Today I did a complete fresh install of LFS, but still - FXO/FXR, FZR sound very un-beefy. I haven't tested all cars, can do if needed.

I tried:
  • Fresh install
  • Change audio output (Onboard sound, HDMI to screen)
  • Switch speakers (Living Room speakers, headphones)
  • Fiddle around in Shift + A menu
But since it is also picked up by the recorder, it can't be the speakers anyway.

The weird thing about this is that it's cross instance - every LFS installation I have has this. Which rules out a bug from a new version and also the possibility of currupt game files.

Are there any game files LFS stores and accesses globally (across installations)?

Anyway, it's a weird one - any help is greatly appreciated.
Günni92
S3 licensed
Quote from Evolution_R : So try with 50Hz with vsync on and enjoy! Omg omg omg

It has nothing to do with exclusive full screen mode.

It seems that you are right, I tried it and the jitter is gone. I am very glad that my monitor natively supports the 50Hz refresh rate. At the same time it is a bit sad to see that the graphics are bound to the physics step that closely. I am also wondering as to why this issue isn't more commonly known, on the other hand I have many friends who just aren't bothered by unsmoothness or screen tearing.

Thanks for the fast replies, I am still a bit unsure about the system volume bar being drawn over a "fullscreen exclusive" LFS though. That's not, what full screen exclusive is meant to be - and opens up a wide range of issues that can be had in the future.

-> While writing this reply I found the solution: It's some stupid optimization Windows 10 does (I run on 1803): It automatically applies so-called "full screen optimizations" to any app, which is supposed to reduce Alt-Tab times and the likes. But that's also the reason, why the full screen mode was not really "exclusive".
(Temporary) Solution: Right-Click LFS.exe, go to Properties->Compatibility and tick "disable fullscreen optimizations" [Source: https://mspoweruser.com/tip-fu ... e-performance-windows-10/]

The only question I ask myself, why, just why do they always have to add new stuff and enable it by default...
Again thanks for your help Smile
Günni92
S3 licensed
Thanks for your reply. I tried every possible combination.
Exclusive full screen is, as far as my knowledge goes, by definition the most jitter-free mode.
I am used to playing any game in this mode, synced to 60FPS. While you can argue about input lag and so on, the thing that matters for me is frame consistency - which is crucial for racing.

The problem I am facing is, that LFS "ecxlusive full screen" doesn't seem that exclusive after all (on Windows 10).

You can try it yourself: Go into free camera mode (shift + u), move the camera up a bit and let it face straight down. Now move it with the arrow keys. Butter smooth or jittery?
Günni92
S3 licensed
Is it planned to add a supersampling option for normal desktop users as well?
Exclusive full screen mode on Windows 10
Günni92
S3 licensed
Hello,
I noticed that LFS does not seem to enter the exclusive full screen mode (Shift+F10) correctly anymore.

A bit of backstory: Whenever I play (any game), I tend to play in full screen mode, because I notice the micro-lags (or jittering) any windowed mode causes (due to triple buffering, I believe).

I can't remember having any problems before, but LFS is jittery for me, even in full screen mode. All in all it feels more like borderless window, because if I, for example, change system volume via keyboard, the volume bar from windows is drawn over LFS - which just shouldn't happen, since I'm supposed to be in fullscreen exclusive.

Sadly these micro-jitters really bug me and I can't drive a clean lap with them.
My system should be more than capable at running synced 60FPS. It shouldn't be a performance issue. GPU and screen drivers are up to date.

I attached two screenshots. You can view my settings there.
Please notice the overlaid volume bar in the top left and the unevenness in the graph that shows the GPU timings.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.


Additional Data:
- LFS version is 0.6U
- GPU is an Nvidia 560ti
Günni92
S3 licensed
092, Daniel Günther, Günni92, hirsch.racing
Günni92
S3 licensed
092, Daniel Günther, Günni92, hirsch.racing
Günni92
S3 licensed
92, Daniel Günther, Günni92, hirsch.racing
Günni92
S3 licensed
Your Name: Daniel Günther
Your LFS Licence: Günni92
Team Name: hirsch.racing
Driver Number: 92
Car Selection: XFG
Nation: Germany

Günni92
S3 licensed
I think the LX8 totally works without the wings. It just needs slicks!
For making the video, I drove it with the current 0.6E physics. And it is totally driveable, but challenging. Perfect fun.
Günni92
S3 licensed
i'd totally want it.
Günni92
S3 licensed
The LX8 would have had slicks
IMO the road tyres on the lx6 have too less grip.
Günni92
S3 licensed
Very cool idea indeed, made something similar about the LX8 a few days ago:
- watch me

If you need any help regarding recording, cutting, encoding, music, etc., i'll be there.
Günni92
S3 licensed
"Recreate the LX8 - Live for Speed"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YSvPQU5QdQ

hirsch.racing
Günni92
S3 licensed
Hello there!
Team info: We are a new team founded at the 28. July 2012. Currently we are two drivers, both living in Germany.

Team Name:
hirsch.racing
Server (Y/N):
yes (24/7)
If yes server name: hirsch.racing
Type: Race, Drift
Website: http://wwwpub.zih.tu-dresden.de/~s8996163/index.html (getting real domain soon, forum in progress)
Are you willing to accept members immediately or will you test drivers?: Just drive a few minutes with us, we will see.
Demo/S1/S2?: S2
Extra Info (teamtag etc): [hr]
Best way to contact us: hirsch.racing@hotmail.de
What experience of drivers: You don't need to be a pro, but we like people with common sense.

Join our Server: lfs://join=hirsch.racing%20^6d^6r^6i^6f^6t
Last edited by Günni92, . Reason : new server link again.
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